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OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do I rewrite the limit part in terms of the substitution.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I need to know how to write the part for the approach section. ex \[\lim_{x \rightarrow a} \frac{\sqrt{x}-a}{x-a}\] If I sub root (x) with u how do I write \[\lim_{u \rightarrow ?}\]

hartnn (hartnn):

thats ax+b, right ? and x->0 let y= ax+b , when x->0 , y-> a(0)+b, y->b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

O alright ok. Thanks so I just make that y = a() + b so y approc b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[m_{y \rightarrow b} \frac{(\sqrt{y}-2)a}{u-b}\] now I am even more stuck

hartnn (hartnn):

you mean y-b in the denom, right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

myininaya (myininaya):

The step you did here I wouldn't even have done. The limit exist when you have 0/0, right? So to find what b is set x=0.

myininaya (myininaya):

In the numerator.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do I do that?

myininaya (myininaya):

sqrt(a(0)+b)-2=0 I set the top equal to 0 and set x equal to 0 because x approaches 0.

myininaya (myininaya):

After you find b, try rationalizing the top for your journey to find a.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim _{\xrightarrow 0} \frac{\sqrt{ax-b}-2}{x} =1 \] wait wait wait wait.... you just did what. I aready changed the number stuff. first if I write the limit in terms of y.. y approaches b as x aproches0

myininaya (myininaya):

The limit exist when you have 0/0.

hartnn (hartnn):

mebs, listen to myin, you can get b easily without doing any of that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so then approaches x

myininaya (myininaya):

x approaches 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

o ok

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\sqrt{a(0)+b}-2=0\]

myininaya (myininaya):

I want to know when the top is 0 for when x is 0. I want the top to be zero because I want 0/0. I put x as 0 because x approaches 0.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so \[b = 2^{2}\]

myininaya (myininaya):

Yep.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But that's cheating. You can't do that if it is supposed to be 0/0 even though you know it equals 1 .

myininaya (myininaya):

Now look at your whole problem where b is 4 and let's find a. Hint: You will need to do some rationalizing.

myininaya (myininaya):

How is that cheating?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because you just let an undefined value equal and let it equal 2 then squared it for b even though its undefined. 2/0

myininaya (myininaya):

We know the limit exist so we know we must have 0/0.

myininaya (myininaya):

We don't have 2/0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright so I guess its clever.

myininaya (myininaya):

It is 0/0.

hartnn (hartnn):

the concept is, since the limit existed, and the denominator =0 the denominator should also have a factor of that leads to 0 there's only one factor in numerator = \sqrt {...}-2 so that must =0 else if the num NOT =0, the limit won't exist.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So now I just evaluate \[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sqrt{ax +4}-2}{x}\]

myininaya (myininaya):

You would go about it like you are evaluating it now. You would rationalize the top.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so like the above part or the substitution part?

myininaya (myininaya):

Or use l'hospital I wouldn't even use a sub.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am not allowed to use l'hoptial ....I haven't learned it in class =(

hartnn (hartnn):

rationalizing is easier than substitution

myininaya (myininaya):

Yep then use rationalizing.

myininaya (myininaya):

I'm not saying you can't use a sub. I'm just saying I wouldn't.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so just multiply the top and bottom by \[\frac{\sqrt{ax+4}+2}{\sqrt{ax+4}+2}\]

myininaya (myininaya):

Yes.

myininaya (myininaya):

no...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I meant that b = 4 and

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well I get a/4

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{\sqrt{ax+4}-2}{x} \cdot \frac{\sqrt{ax+4}+2}{\sqrt{ax+4}+2}=\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{(ax+4)-4}{x(\sqrt{ax+4}+2)}\] Ok good/ a/4 So a/4=1

myininaya (myininaya):

That wouldn't make a 1 or -1.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright that was nice.. thanks

myininaya (myininaya):

Great. I have seen that question a dozen times now on openstudy. lol.

myininaya (myininaya):

Sometimes we did l'hospital and other times we did rationalizing.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright time to attempt similar problems... I hope you guys are still around until I get it haha thanks @hartnn and @myininaya

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