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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Continuity/differentiability question on graphs

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i do not know how to find part (iii) and unsure of part (ii)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Normally, if you're just given the graph, you can't find derivatives (at least, their precise value) But would it help you to know that \(\large \sqrt 3 \approx 1.732\) ? Meaning it's between 1 and 2...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well yea, so u mean i shd just estimate the y value?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dy/dx equals to the m in y=mx+c so u can calculate m and find f`

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Not that, put it this way, on the interval (1,2) the function is practically linear, so the derivative of any f in that interval is simply the slope of the line... which is...?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

By the way, if you really want to be formal, then \[\Large 1 < 3 < 4 \implies \sqrt1 <\sqrt 3 <\sqrt 4 \implies 1 < \sqrt3 < 2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah! -1?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

YES, precisely ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

omggg i almost forgot about that, thanks!

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

part iv good too?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol thats wht i said too. :p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

part (iv) is x=0 coz its a min

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x=3 i mean

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Okay, good.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

wat do u get for ii

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(2,2), (2,1.5),(2,1),(2,0.5)(2,0) i am not sure

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I think 'points' in this case just means values of x for which f(x) is not differentiable...

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

And what's so special about (2 , 0.5) ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

few of the points u listed dont even exist on graph, so dont list them..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think it would be x =1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha, idk, so if its x value then it should be x=2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x=1 and x=2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya it doesnt exist thats why not differentiable? haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why x=1 included?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

if it doesnt exist in domain, dont wry about it

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

roughly speaking, the function isn't differentiable at points where: \(\color{green}{\checkmark }\) It is not continuous \(\color{green}{\checkmark }\) It makes a rather -sharp- turn, (IE, not smooth)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i see, okay i'll take note of that, thanks guys!(:

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Show that you've taken note of it: for what values of x is the function not differentiable? (your final answer)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x=1 and x=2, x=1 is sharp turn, x=2 is not continuous

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Correct, also, at x=1, left slope(-infinity ? ) \(\ne\) right slope (-1)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

^ oh ya thats true so limits from left/right are not the same which make it discontinuous.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

at x = 2, its discontinuous cuz, left limit \(\ne\) right limit at x=1, its not differentiable cuz, left slope \(\ne\) right slope

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

if ur teacher wants points, just give her that :- At points (1, 1) and (2, 1) on graph, the graph is not differentiable

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

*function is not..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay thanks! :D

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

np :)

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