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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Absolute Max of...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hartnn (hartnn):

could you find the critical points first? by equating the 1st derivative to 0 ?

hartnn (hartnn):

what do you get as first derivative f'(x) =... ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@hartnn \[f \prime (x)= \frac{ x^2+4x-1 }{ (x+2)^2 }\] Critical points were: \[-2 \pm \sqrt{5}\]

hartnn (hartnn):

:O i am seeing f(x) =7x-14 sin x!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha oops wait a minute...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the first derivative is 7-14cos(x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

as for the critical points im stuck :/

hartnn (hartnn):

critical points,f'(x)=0 so, for 7-14cos x =0 cos x =... ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Im getting:\[x=\frac{ \pi }{ 3 }\pm2\pi n, \frac{5 \pi }{ 3 }\pm2\pi n\]

hartnn (hartnn):

but i asked cos x =... :P

hartnn (hartnn):

anyways, cos x =1/2 for which angle is cos x =1/2 in your given closed interval ?

hartnn (hartnn):

the closed interval given is [-pi/4, pi/2]

hartnn (hartnn):

there is only one angle in that range for which cos x =1/2 you still there?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes still here sorry! bad internet connection Cos x would = 1/2 @ Pi/3

hartnn (hartnn):

correct. so you will now test your function at 3 points, x=pi/3 x=-pi/4 x=pi/2 for whichever angle , you get f(x) as maximum, is your maximum point :) can u test ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes one second :) let me work it out

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x=\pi/3; f(x)= \frac{ 7\pi }{ 3 }-7\sqrt{3}\] \[x=-\pi/4; f(x)= -\frac{ 7\pi }{ 4 }+7\sqrt{2}\] \[x=\pi/2; f(x)= \frac{ 7\pi }{ 2 }-14\]

hartnn (hartnn):

so f(x) is max at which x ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i want to say at x=-pi/4 ? :|

hartnn (hartnn):

that is correct :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ahhhhh :) yay I actually just adjusted my window on my calculator and it definitely helped idk why i didnt do that in the first place!

hartnn (hartnn):

cool, and what about the other question, did u get that too ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not yet unfortunately! :/

hartnn (hartnn):

what was f(x) ? and u need to find maximim only ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well this was the original question...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

C is the one i am having trouble with

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a,b, d, & e i got correct -_-

hartnn (hartnn):

if f"(x) >0 then its concave up, whats your f"(x) =... ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[f \prime (x)=\frac{ 1 }{ 7 }(8x ^{1/7}-x ^{-6/7})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[f \prime \prime (x)=\frac{ 2(4x+3) }{ 49x ^{13/7} }\]

hartnn (hartnn):

so, that should be > 0 so, x > -3/4 (-3/4, infinity) is not a choice. i think the 3rd choice has a typing mistake, it didn't show the negative sign...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i dont understand. unless my second derivative is incorrect?

hartnn (hartnn):

your 2nd derivative is correct :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well what the heck haha. On my calculator at x=0 the graph vertically overlaps the y-axis which is weird

hartnn (hartnn):

graph of f(x) ? yes, your calculator is weird :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmph. so what your saying is the correct answer would be the third choice?

hartnn (hartnn):

what i was saying is that the correct answer (-3/4, infinity) is not in the choices. so, it seems, that there was typing error when choices were given, maybe they really meant C to be (-3/4,infinity.)

hartnn (hartnn):

oh, well. but the graph here shows that its concave up from 0 to infinity! http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x%5E%288%2F7%29-x%5E%281%2F7%29

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i see it! my calculator looks nothing like that :/ aggh but you were right that was the correct answer!

hartnn (hartnn):

oh! i think we missed the point that f(x) is only defined for x>= 0 ! so, the interval -3/4 to 0 will not be taken into consideration! thats why its 0 to infinity :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

omg! yes! Thats right ! I get it :O

hartnn (hartnn):

:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you so much! I appreciate your help very much!

hartnn (hartnn):

you're most welcome ^_^

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