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OpenStudy (math2400):

Hello(: So I'm trying to use partial fractions on this prob. I factored the denominator to x and (x^2+1). Then i put A/x + (Bx+C)/(x^2+1)....is this incorrect? Cuz it doesn't seem to be working< **postin prob

OpenStudy (math2400):

OpenStudy (math2400):

anyone get this? I have a test in a couple hours<< i was absent for this lesson so I don't really now how to go about for the more "seemingly" complicated probs

OpenStudy (math2400):

@ganeshie8 do u think u can take a shot at this if u get a minute?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

thats right !

OpenStudy (math2400):

kk and now I'm trying to use i to solve for B and C.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

did u solve A already ?

OpenStudy (math2400):

yes A would be 4 right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yup ! did u use coverup method ?

OpenStudy (math2400):

what's the coverup method? I never heard of it. Could be cuz i wasn't in class so I haven't been exposed to to the technical terms lol

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

no need of using coverup method, forget it :) do it in ur own way, all u want is to find A, B, and C values. thats all

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

3x^2 + 4x +4 = A(x^2+1) + (Bx+C)x

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

compare x^2, x and constant terms on both sides, u will get 3 equations, u can slve them

OpenStudy (math2400):

haha okay got that. how would I get 3 equ? I got 2 but can't workout the 3rd. For my first i plugged in x=0 (to get A) and then I plugged in x=i. what would i do for the last one?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the standard method is to compare x^2, x and constant terms both sides

OpenStudy (math2400):

could u elaborate a bit further if u don't mind? lol sorry its 4 in the morning, haha my brain isn't with me

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

3x^2 + 4x +4 = A(x^2+1) + (Bx+C)x x^2 coefficcient on left side = 3 x^2 coefficient on right side = A + B so, 3 = A + B ----------- (1)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

thats ur first equation

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

comparing x coefficient both sides : 4 = C --------------(2)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

comparing constant term both sides : 4 = A ------------(3)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you have 3 equaitons wid 3 unknowns u can solve them :)

OpenStudy (math2400):

ok! Ive never compared them to get equations like that. Thanks for the hints!!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

this method always works. i prefer this, to plugging a value randomly..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

lets do one more problem, im sure u will feel this method is easy :)

OpenStudy (math2400):

OMG LOL just got it! Wow thank you!! So much more easier lol! Appreciate it!!!!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

np :) good luck wid the exam !

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

just one important thing i wana tell, since u missed the class for partial fractions

OpenStudy (math2400):

thank you! it's like magic haha

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

when integrating partial fractions work ONLY if below condition satisfies : degree of numerator < degree of denominator

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

if u have the integral like below : x^3 + x ------------ x^2 + 2x + 1 you cannot use partial fractions directly; u need to do long division first, and make the degree of numerator LESS than degree of denominator

OpenStudy (math2400):

and u said it always works right? like there is no conditions for that little trick u used? and i got that. If the num is greater u divided it out then integrate what u get

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, the 'comparing coefficients' method works always.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

u deserve some good sleep before exam lol... you should sleep a bit :)

OpenStudy (math2400):

perfect! Thanks again!! Really appreciate ur time!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

np :)

OpenStudy (math2400):

Have a nice day(: And I just had to figure out how to do that prob before i could sleep.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you will get ln's, and inverse tans whenever u do partial fractions.. have fun :)

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