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Physics 22 Online
OpenStudy (anonymous):

A mechanical system with generalised coordinates \[q_{1}\] and \[q_{2}\], has Lagrangian \[L(q_{1}, q_{2}, q_{1}\prime, q_{2}\prime)\]. State Lagrange's equations for the system, and deduce that \[q _{1}\prime \frac{ \delta L }{ \delta q_{1}\prime } (q_{1}, q_{2}, q_{1}\prime, q_{2}\prime) + q _{2}\prime \frac{ \delta L }{ \delta q_{2}\prime } (q_{1}, q_{2}, q_{1}\prime, q_{2}\prime) - L(q_{1}, q_{2}, q_{1}\prime, q_{2}\prime)\] is constant during the motion.

OpenStudy (samgrace):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Are "Lagrange's equations" the same as the Euler-Lagrange equations? \[\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_1} = \frac{\text{d}}{\text{d}x}\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_1'}\] \[\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_2} = \frac{\text{d}}{\text{d}x}\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_2'}\] I'm assuming that \(q_1\) and \(q_2\) are functions of some variable \(x\) that evolves during "motion". (\(x\) is probably time). You want to show that \[\frac{\text{d}}{\text{d}x}\Big(q_1'\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_1'} + q_2'\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_2'} + L\Big) = 0\] so \[\frac{\text{d}}{\text{d}x}\Big(q_1'\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_1'} + q_2'\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_2'} + L\Big) = q_1''\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_1'} +q_1'\frac{\text{d}}{\text{d}x}\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_1'} + q_2''\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_2'} +q_2'\frac{\text{d}}{\text{d}x}\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_2'} - \frac{\partial L}{\partial x}\] Here it's helpful to write out \(q_1'',q_1'\) etc explicitly and From the Euler-Lagrange equations you can make substitutions. \[\frac{\partial q_1'}{\partial x}\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_1'} + \frac{\partial q_1}{\partial x}\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_1} + \frac{\partial q_2'}{\partial x}\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_2'} + \frac{\partial q_2}{\partial x}\frac{\partial L}{\partial q_2} - \frac{\partial L}{\partial x} \] now it should be obvious that the first 4 terms are a chain-rule-like expansion of the last term, hence the whole thing equals zero.

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