Five Years after 650 high school seniors graduated, 400 had a college degree and 310 were married. Half of the students with college degrees were married. a.) What is the probability that a student has a college degree or married? b.)what is the probability that a student has a college degree or is not married. c.)What is the probility that a student does not have a college degree or is married
A) 78.4% B) 83% c) 69%
@hisham1 how ?
@hisham1: Please do not pass out answers. Instead, provide guidance so that Mhm120 can arrive at the correct results on his/her own. Refer to the Code of Conduct, please.
im sorry, my laptop just died!
@mathmale could you please explain to me how to do this problem?
anyways, you begin with the total, which is 650 students, and that will be your denominator for the whole time.
alright noted what's next
While it's not strictly necessary, you (mhm120) might want to make what's called a "contingency table." The contents of this table come from the verbal problem statement.
Are you familiar with that name, "contingency table"?
400 had a college degree, 310 were married, and 200 were both married and had a college degree.
yes.
Would you (hisham1) mind drawing a contingency table and then demonstrating how to use it to answer these 3 questions? Remember, you're addressing mhm120, not me.
I am not familiar with what a contingency table is...
can you please excuse me, i have to go.
it's fine Can some please help me with the probelm cause I want to make sur eI understand the concepts
Any given person chosen at random from these 650 graduates could be 1) married, 2) unmarried, 3) a college graduate, or 4) not a college graduate.
We'll arrange this data in a table: Coll Not coll grad grad Totals Married Not mar Totals 650
Referring to this table and to the original problem statement, could you fill in the table?
yes I could
Great. copy my table and paste it into your entry space, then fill it out.
Five Years after 650 high school seniors graduated, 400 had a college degree and 310 were married. Half of the students with college degrees were married. a.) What is the probability that a student has a college degree or married? b.)what is the probability that a student has a college degree or is not married. c.)What is the probility that a student does not have a college degree or is married Coll Not coll grad grad Totals Married Not mar Totals 650
just kidding i can't
We're told that 400 of the HS grads had a college degree, so we'll insert that sum, 400, at the bottom of the College degree column. Can you figure out what to do with the total numb er who were married? Coll Not coll grad grad Totals Married Not mar Totals 400 650
200?
since it said half the students with a college degree were married.
Coll Not coll grad grad Totals Married 200 Not mar Totals 400 650 True. What total number of students were married? Where do you put that info?
right under totals (the second row) and it would be 310
Coll Not coll grad grad Totals Married 200 310 Not mar Totals 400 650 Right. of those 310 total who were married, how many were not college grads?
it would be half of 310? so 155?
The reasoning ("half") is correct, but that's not what the problem statement says, is it? A total of 310 were married, and 200 of those 310 were college grads. Therefore, the number of married peoople who did not have4 college degrees was what? (Subtract)
110
Agreed. Are you able to put that 110 into the table yourself? (Copy and paste.)
I would but when I copy and paste it it won't work properly it just glitches( I need to get my computer fixed)
But it goes not coll grad
Coll Not coll grad grad Totals Married 200 110 310 Not mar Totals 400 650 How many students, total, are not college grads?
(Obtain this info from the table, immediately above
Hint: Subtract again!
If there are a total of 650 people here, and 400 of them are college grads, how many are not college grads?
wait what are we looking for now?
Number of peopole who are NOT college gradds.
oh ok sorry
Total 650 coll grads -400 ------ Not col. grads:
250
Correct. Coll Not coll grad grad Totals Married 200 110 310 Not mar Totals 400 250 650 How many people,total, are not married? How many people, total are neither married nor college grads?
200 & 140
For "not married", subtract 310 from 650.
340
Good! How many people, total are neither married nor college grads?
Coll Not coll grad grad Totals Married 200 110 310 Not mar 340 Totals 400 650
40
*140
This process goes much faster after you've done it a few times. Thanks for your patience. Yes, 140.
Coll Not coll grad grad Totals Married 200 110 310 Not mar 140 340 Totals 400 650
Can you now fill in the 2 missing numbers?
no it's fine.. I actually have a test tomorrow and so I wanted to really learn this. It's VERY helpful. (: and so the total Not coll frad would be 250 and not married college grads were 200
Coll Not coll grad grad Totals Married 200 110 310 Not mar 140 340 Totals 400 250 650
Coll Not coll grad grad Totals Married 200 110 310 Not mar 200 140 340 Totals 400 250 650
Yay!
Now we have 3 probabilities to find. The first one : What is the probability that a student has a college degree or married?
is it \[\frac{ college degree/married }{ Total }\]
It's possible for a person to be both married and a college grad, right? In this case, we're calculating what's called "joint probability" and then the probability of a "union." are you familiar with either term?
that wa s a guess though.. and ahah yes it is possible
an dim familiar with those but not super sure on what they are.
Let me type out the rule; we can discuss it later as needed. P(A) or P(B)=
ok
Let me type out the rule; we can discuss it later as needed. P(A or B) = P(A)+P(B) - P(A AND B).
This applies when there can be overlap of events A and B. This applies when a person can be both married and have a college degree, right?
right.
So: Let Event A be "The person is married." Let Event B be "The person is a college grad." We need to find P(A), P(B) and P(A AND B). How many people, total, are married?
total married is 310
Yes, 310 out of 650, so, P(A) is 310/650. Now, how many peoopl ehave a college degree?
400
Right, and so P(B) is 400/650. Now, how many peoople are both married and have a college degree?
Just look under the "college degree" column, immediately to the right of the "married" row.
200
Right, and so the joint probability of A and B is 200/650. Following the formula I gave you earlier, P(A or B) = P(A)+P(B) - P(A AND B). Just stick in the values we found for P(A), P(B) and P(A and B). It's very important that you be able to do this yourself. The answer will look like 400+310-200 ------------ P( married OR college grad) 650 Can you see where I got that?
Vaguely.. Sorry
Please go back and find our values for P(A) and P(B). type out those values below.
P(A) =310/650 P(B)=400/650 P(A&B)=200/650
So, if you add the first two together, you get (310+400)/650, or 710/650; if you then subtract 200/650, you get 510/650, which is the same thing as I typed earlier: 400+310-200 ------------ P( married OR college grad) 650
Divide 650 into 510; the resulting decimal fraction is the probability wanted in the first problem
mhm120: I'm afraid I must get off the 'Net soon. I'df like to encourage you to try solving the 2nd and 3rd problems in the same way. I'll probabl;y be on the Internet later today, so if you post anything, I'll likely see it and answer it. Great working with you.
is it 1.27?
Mind saying what state you're from and what grade (or college level) you're in?
510/650 would be a fraction LESS than 1, wouldn't it?
CA, 10th
why? aha
I'm in Kern County, CA, 3 hours north of LA. Pure curiosity.
ahhhh haha
are you a teacher?
Again, great talking with you. Hope we link up later today. Yes, I'm a retired college professor.
Thanks for your perseverance! Bye for now.
bye!
@mathmale oj I still need guidance for the last parts of this problem .
Coll Not coll grad grad Totals Married 200 110 310 Not mar 200 140 340 Totals 400 250 650 b.)what is the probability that a student has a college degree or is not married. @Mhm120 : this problem may be done in the same way as the previous one. How many of these people have college degrees?
250
Look at the sum at the bottom of the college grad column. What is it?
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