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OpenStudy (anonymous):

A beaker with 115mL of an acetic acid buffer with a pH of 5.000 is sitting on a benchtop. The total molarity of acid and conjugate base in this buffer is 0.100 M. A student adds 4.00mL of a 0.490M HCl solution to the beaker. How much will the pH change? The pKa of acetic acid is 4.760.

OpenStudy (abb0t):

this is a fairly long problem, are you there still?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm here now. This problem is still confusing me.

Miracrown (miracrown):

any ideas on starting this one? are you familiar with the Henderson Hasselbalch equation? @llaurenemilyy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, I am. I kinda know the basics, it's just a different problem than I've been working on.

Miracrown (miracrown):

and we will have two sets of conditions right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, I think so.

Miracrown (miracrown):

right there is some algebra to this we can plug in what we know right? the first condition is that base + acid = .1M right?

Miracrown (miracrown):

so base = .1 - acid by rearranging then we know that pka is given right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes. That's right.

Miracrown (miracrown):

we can then solve for the concentration of base and acid right?

Miracrown (miracrown):

5.00 = 4.760 + log ((.1-acid)/acid) 5.00 = 4.760 + log ((.1-acid)/acid)) okay, so we can solve for acid right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, you can use x=acid. And solve for x.

Miracrown (miracrown):

subtracting 4.76 from each side and then we can undo the log by taking 10^ for each side right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Correct.

Miracrown (miracrown):

and yes you're right!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So 10^-0.24 x=0.567

Miracrown (miracrown):

now any ideas on solving for the concentration of base?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0.576

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's what I meant. Haha

Miracrown (miracrown):

hmm how did you get that though? remember we have ((.1-acid)/acid) on the right side

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Should it be 10^0.24 or 10^-0.24?

Miracrown (miracrown):

Miracrown (miracrown):

10^.24 right? since 5.00-4.74 is .24

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, that makes sense.

Miracrown (miracrown):

okay, are you getting the same value for the acid as I did? and now we can solve for the base based on .1 = base + acid

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, I did. Base is 0.0635M

Miracrown (miracrown):

Exactly, nice work! :]

Miracrown (miracrown):

okay, now we know the initial conditions right? the concentration of the acid and conjugate base in the buffer

Miracrown (miracrown):

so we have 115mL of those concentrations can you find the moles of acid and base?

Miracrown (miracrown):

that way we can see what affect the 0.490M HCl solution will do to those moles

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, turn mL to L and then multiply M and L.

Miracrown (miracrown):

exactly

Miracrown (miracrown):

.115* .0365 = moles acid .0041975 moles acid .115* . 0635= moles base .0073 moles base

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0.0042 mol acid & 0.0073 mol conjugate base

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, that's what I got!

Miracrown (miracrown):

Great!

Miracrown (miracrown):

okay, and then we need to find moles of HCl added right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, so do the same procedure.

Miracrown (miracrown):

.004* .490 moles HCL .00196 moles HCL

Miracrown (miracrown):

okay, so we have these values have you done limiting reactant type problems before? we have the reaction base + HCl --> acid right? each mole of HCl will convert 1 mole of the conjugate base back to the acetic acid

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, that's what I got! And yes I have done problems like that before.

Miracrown (miracrown):

Awesome!

Miracrown (miracrown):

so lets find out how much of the base is converted to acid by the HCl

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you add the mols of base and moles of HCl, then subtract mols of acid? I'm not sure if I know how to do that.

Miracrown (miracrown):

Miracrown (miracrown):

nopewe need to subtract like I have on the doc the HCl uses up the base, until the acid runs out and then the acid will be produced by the HCl.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh Makes sense!

Miracrown (miracrown):

so what would the final values be? - referring to the doc!

Miracrown (miracrown):

and then we can plug these directly back into a new henderson-hasselbalch equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Final base= 0.00534 and final acid= 0.00224

Miracrown (miracrown):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh wait, for the acid I subtracted it. It needs to be added.

Miracrown (miracrown):

oh the acid gets added right?

Miracrown (miracrown):

yes, glad you picked up your mistake!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, the acid=0.00616, right?

Miracrown (miracrown):

Yes!.... the acid gets added .0041975 + .00196 because the HCl converts the base to acid How might that new H-H equation look? we don't need to find molarities since the volumes of both are the same and they get divided.Final base= 0.00534 and final acid= 0.00224 so we can plug the moles straight in

Miracrown (miracrown):

and now we plug into H-H equation right? we know pka and this ratio of base/acid so we can solve for pH

OpenStudy (anonymous):

pH=4.70

Miracrown (miracrown):

yes, does that make sense? :]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It does! Thank you so much! You were such a great help!

Miracrown (miracrown):

No worries, glad I helped! Good luck! :-]

Miracrown (miracrown):

Miracrown (miracrown):

:]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you again!

Miracrown (miracrown):

yw :]

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