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OpenStudy (anonymous):

POLYNOMIALS... help with quotient, remainders, finding coefficients :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

POLYNOMIALS! A battery produces a voltage that is dependent on the temperature t in ºC. The voltage formula is modelled by the formula \[V(t)=2t^3+bt^2+c \] for \[-1 \le t \le 2.5\] where b and c are real numbers. (a) find the quotient and remainder when V(t) is divided by (t-2) (b) given that the graph of V(t) has a repeated root at t=2, find the values of b and c.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i used synthetic division to find the remainder and quotient, but i dont think its correct. I got R= c + 16 + 4b \[Q(x)=2t^2+ (4+b)t+(8+2b)\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Looks correct !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

since t-2 is a double root, i then synthetically divided the quotient by 2 and i got \[\frac{ Q(x) }{ 2 }=2+8+b+24+4b\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\( \begin{array}{} 2~|&2&b&0&c\\ &&4&8+2b&16+4b\\ \hline &&&&\\ &2&4+b&8+2b&|c+16+4b \end{array} \) Quotient = \(2t^2 + (4+b)t + (8+2b)\) Remainder = \(c+16 + 4b\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

for part b, quotients doesnt matter... just find out the remainder and set it equal to 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, I see, let me have a go...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hang on...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

After second synthetic division, u wil get second remainder. set the both remainders to 0 two equaitons, two unknowns. solve.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

okk

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeh, i was trying to do that - my second remainder I got to be 24+4b=0 ... b=-6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but when i found the values and graphed it, there was no double root, so i must of done something wrong...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

b = -6 is correct!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Did u graph the Voltage equation ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

really? how come my graph is not right... hmm (then i found c=-18)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep, V(t)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

your c is wrong

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you should get : b = -6 c = 8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

NOOOooooooOooo stupid me

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

hahah mistake in second sythetic division i guess... :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why hello beautiful graph - thanks @ganeshie8 - yes that was it..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

good :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no it wasnt the division - i just looked at my calculator and i typed in a wrong digit -.-

OpenStudy (anonymous):

problem solved.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

lol, okay... and did u finish ur earlier problem about proving (x+1) is a factor of P(x) or somehting ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

...no! do you think you might have an idea? unlike @idkihavenoidea ? lol

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

lol i havent tried it yet... could u attach the quesiton here agian

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sure hang on a sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When P(x) is divided by (x^2+x−2), the Quotient is Q(x) and the remainder is (−2x+4) When Q(x) is divided by (x+1) the remainder is 3. prove that (x+1) is a factor of P(x)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Okay, basically you're given : \(P(x) = (x^2+x-2)*Q(x) + (-2x+4)\) \(Q(-1) = 3\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

You need to prove : \(P(-1) = 0\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

YES! :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Evaluate \(P(-1)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[P(-1) = (1+-1-2)*Q(x) + (2+4)\] \[P(-1) = -2*Q(x) + 6\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you need to replace x with -1 everywhere...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(P(-1) = (1+-1-2)*Q(-1) + (2+4) \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes!! I knew that..... dang it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[P(-1) = -2*Q(-1) + 6\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

why u saving Q(-1) lol.... replace it with 3 !

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

and you're done :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ...there it is!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

light bulb moment

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

When Q(x) is divided by (x+1) the remainder is 3. => Q(-1) = 3 by remainder/factor theorem

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

when dividing : f(x)/g(x), f(x) = g(x)*Q(x) + R(x) Q(x) = quotient R(x) = remainder

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

i feel remembering the division that way makes it easy to think the word problems.. .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that really helps, thanks a billion

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

np :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

shoot... it better be an easy one -.-

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hehe - Given that P(x) is a cubic polynomial, with a leading coefficient of 1, find P(x) and all its zeros.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

should be easy for u... after so much drilling of synthetic division lol

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

from part a, you already know that (x+1) is a factor of P(x), what does that tell u about zeroes of P(x) ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well, x=-1 is a zero and that there are two other zeros.... \[P(x)=(x+1)(x^2+bx+c)\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we may not take that long route

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i agree!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

does the short route involve synthetic division?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

one sec, let me think a bit...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Lets start here : \(P(x) = (x^2+x-2)*Q(x) + (-2x+4)\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Since \(P(x)\) has leading coefficient of 1, say, \(Q(x) = x +a\) then, P(x) becomes : \(P(x) = (x^2+x-2)*(x+a) + (-2x+4) \)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

find out "a" value, and plugin

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

use P(-1) = 0, to find the "a" value

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok ill do that now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got a=4

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Correct !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now expand and simplify P(x)?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

thats it !

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(P(x) = (x^2+x-2)*(x+4) + (-2x+4) \) simplify

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I wish I had a mini you in my brain ....

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

aww you're very kind :) xD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha .... I got \[P(x) = x^3+5x^2-4\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks good !!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the zeros are very awkward numbers - 0.884, -1, -4.828 oh well

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

hahah get use to them lol

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

wait a sec, wolfram gives different numbers for zeroes : http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28x%5E2%2Bx-2%29*%28x%2B4%29+%2B+%28-2x%2B4%29

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

nvm, i see u made a typo... thats all i guess :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mine are correct, they have it in a nicer form (i clicked approximation on wolfram and the zeros i found checked).

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

0.884 is not same as : 0.8284 :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(oops!) Well, thanks for your time @ganeshie8 I have to go now - thanks for all your tips aswell! Have a great day :) ....U DA BOMB

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

its a typo from u, feel it ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

felt... haha

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

have a nice day :) cya !

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