POLYNOMIALS... help with quotient, remainders, finding coefficients :)
POLYNOMIALS! A battery produces a voltage that is dependent on the temperature t in ºC. The voltage formula is modelled by the formula \[V(t)=2t^3+bt^2+c \] for \[-1 \le t \le 2.5\] where b and c are real numbers. (a) find the quotient and remainder when V(t) is divided by (t-2) (b) given that the graph of V(t) has a repeated root at t=2, find the values of b and c.
i used synthetic division to find the remainder and quotient, but i dont think its correct. I got R= c + 16 + 4b \[Q(x)=2t^2+ (4+b)t+(8+2b)\]
Looks correct !
since t-2 is a double root, i then synthetically divided the quotient by 2 and i got \[\frac{ Q(x) }{ 2 }=2+8+b+24+4b\]
\( \begin{array}{} 2~|&2&b&0&c\\ &&4&8+2b&16+4b\\ \hline &&&&\\ &2&4+b&8+2b&|c+16+4b \end{array} \) Quotient = \(2t^2 + (4+b)t + (8+2b)\) Remainder = \(c+16 + 4b\)
for part b, quotients doesnt matter... just find out the remainder and set it equal to 0
Oh, I see, let me have a go...
hang on...
After second synthetic division, u wil get second remainder. set the both remainders to 0 two equaitons, two unknowns. solve.
okk
yeh, i was trying to do that - my second remainder I got to be 24+4b=0 ... b=-6
but when i found the values and graphed it, there was no double root, so i must of done something wrong...
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=c%2B16%2B4b%3D0%2C2%282%29%5E2+%2B+%284%2Bb%29*2+%2B+8%2B2b%3D0
b = -6 is correct!
Did u graph the Voltage equation ?
really? how come my graph is not right... hmm (then i found c=-18)
yep, V(t)
your c is wrong
you should get : b = -6 c = 8
NOOOooooooOooo stupid me
hahah mistake in second sythetic division i guess... :)
why hello beautiful graph - thanks @ganeshie8 - yes that was it..
good :)
no it wasnt the division - i just looked at my calculator and i typed in a wrong digit -.-
problem solved.
lol, okay... and did u finish ur earlier problem about proving (x+1) is a factor of P(x) or somehting ?
...no! do you think you might have an idea? unlike @idkihavenoidea ? lol
lol i havent tried it yet... could u attach the quesiton here agian
sure hang on a sec
When P(x) is divided by (x^2+x−2), the Quotient is Q(x) and the remainder is (−2x+4) When Q(x) is divided by (x+1) the remainder is 3. prove that (x+1) is a factor of P(x)
Okay, basically you're given : \(P(x) = (x^2+x-2)*Q(x) + (-2x+4)\) \(Q(-1) = 3\)
You need to prove : \(P(-1) = 0\)
right ?
YES! :)
Evaluate \(P(-1)\)
\[P(-1) = (1+-1-2)*Q(x) + (2+4)\] \[P(-1) = -2*Q(x) + 6\]
you need to replace x with -1 everywhere...
\(P(-1) = (1+-1-2)*Q(-1) + (2+4) \)
Yes!! I knew that..... dang it
\[P(-1) = -2*Q(-1) + 6\]
why u saving Q(-1) lol.... replace it with 3 !
and you're done :)
oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ...there it is!
light bulb moment
When Q(x) is divided by (x+1) the remainder is 3. => Q(-1) = 3 by remainder/factor theorem
when dividing : f(x)/g(x), f(x) = g(x)*Q(x) + R(x) Q(x) = quotient R(x) = remainder
i feel remembering the division that way makes it easy to think the word problems.. .
that really helps, thanks a billion
np :)
shoot... it better be an easy one -.-
hehe - Given that P(x) is a cubic polynomial, with a leading coefficient of 1, find P(x) and all its zeros.
should be easy for u... after so much drilling of synthetic division lol
from part a, you already know that (x+1) is a factor of P(x), what does that tell u about zeroes of P(x) ?
well, x=-1 is a zero and that there are two other zeros.... \[P(x)=(x+1)(x^2+bx+c)\]
we may not take that long route
i agree!
does the short route involve synthetic division?
one sec, let me think a bit...
Lets start here : \(P(x) = (x^2+x-2)*Q(x) + (-2x+4)\)
Since \(P(x)\) has leading coefficient of 1, say, \(Q(x) = x +a\) then, P(x) becomes : \(P(x) = (x^2+x-2)*(x+a) + (-2x+4) \)
find out "a" value, and plugin
use P(-1) = 0, to find the "a" value
ok ill do that now
i got a=4
Correct !
now expand and simplify P(x)?
thats it !
\(P(x) = (x^2+x-2)*(x+4) + (-2x+4) \) simplify
I wish I had a mini you in my brain ....
aww you're very kind :) xD
haha .... I got \[P(x) = x^3+5x^2-4\]
looks good !!
the zeros are very awkward numbers - 0.884, -1, -4.828 oh well
hahah get use to them lol
wait a sec, wolfram gives different numbers for zeroes : http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28x%5E2%2Bx-2%29*%28x%2B4%29+%2B+%28-2x%2B4%29
nvm, i see u made a typo... thats all i guess :)
mine are correct, they have it in a nicer form (i clicked approximation on wolfram and the zeros i found checked).
0.884 is not same as : 0.8284 :P
(oops!) Well, thanks for your time @ganeshie8 I have to go now - thanks for all your tips aswell! Have a great day :) ....U DA BOMB
its a typo from u, feel it ;)
felt... haha
have a nice day :) cya !
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