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OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

I looked at that before but I still don't understand

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't think I found the derivative correctly either?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

first find dy/dx : \[\dfrac{dy}{dx} = \dfrac{\frac{dr}{d\theta} \sin \theta + r\cos \theta }{\frac{dr}{d\theta} \cos \theta - r\sin\theta }\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

^^above gives u slope of tangent line

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

once u have the slope, u can use the given point to write out the equation in cartesian point-slope form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is dr/dtheta the derivative I found before to put into that formula?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yep

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do I simplify it, though?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[ \dfrac{dy}{dx} = \dfrac{\frac{dr}{d\theta} \sin \theta + r\cos \theta }{\frac{dr}{d\theta} \cos \theta - r\sin\theta} = \dfrac{4\cos (4\theta) \sin \theta + r\cos \theta }{4\cos (4\theta) \cos \theta - r\sin\theta} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh that's what I got but I thought it could be be further simplified

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

ur point : (2,0) change it to polar

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(r = \sqrt{2^2 + 0^2} = 2\) \(\theta = \arctan (\frac{0}{2}) = 0\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[ \dfrac{dy}{dx} \Bigg|_{(2, 0)} = \dfrac{4\cos (4*0) \sin 0 + 2\cos 0 }{4\cos (4*0) \cos 0 - 2\sin 0} \]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

simplify

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1/2 is then the slope?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do I get the full equation of the tangent line, though? Do I have to use the slope somehow now?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

slop = 1/2 point = (2, 0)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

point slope form : \(y - y_1 = m(x-x_1)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, oh, yeah I know this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks for that! Would you also happen to know how to find the area of this polar equation?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Area : \[\iint \limits_R 1 ~r dr ~d\theta = \int \limits_{..}^{..} \frac{1}{2}r^2 d\theta \]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you just need to integrate from 0->2pi

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[ \int \limits_{0}^{2\pi} \frac{1}{2}r^2 d\theta \]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

plugin the value of \(r\) and evaluate the integral

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So I just need to plug in 2 into r and just solve that integral?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

nope, area is not related to just a point. you're done with finding the tangent at (2, 0) in the first part

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

plugin the equation for \(r\) above^ r=2+sin(4theta)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\int \limits_{0}^{2\pi} \frac{1}{2}r^2 d\theta = \int \limits_{0}^{2\pi} \frac{1}{2}(2+\sin(4\theta))^2 d\theta \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And the answer to that integral will just be the area of the enclosed region of the polar equation, is that correct?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yup

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, sweet. Thanks so much!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, I'll do all that now, that seemed a lot more simpler than I thought. Thanks :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

u wlc :)

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