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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Write the equation of the line that is tangent to the circle (x – 2)^2 + (y – 4)^2 = 289, at the point (-15, 4).

mathslover (mathslover):

Have you tried to solve this question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes. I've only been stuck on 2 problems for 30 minutes. The one I was helped with and this one.

mathslover (mathslover):

Well, here also, differentiation will be involved. Can you tell me, what will be the differentiation of (x-2)^2 w.r.t x ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm scared to guess...

mathslover (mathslover):

Not to guess... ! Actually, it is : Differentiation of \(x^n\) with respect to x is \(nx^{n-1}\) So, let us first take (x-2) as a function (f(x)) : Can you now tell me what will be the differentiation of \((f(x))^2\) w.r.t x ? (Hint : Just think that f(x) is x and n = 2 , put these values in the above formula.)

mathslover (mathslover):

Not exactly.. Its not that simple. I think, you need to study differentiation for this, Have a look at this link : http://www.mathsisfun.com/calculus/derivatives-introduction.html

OpenStudy (anonymous):

since (-15,4) lies on the circle (x – 2)^2 + (y – 4)^2 =289

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now we know tangent is aline whicj is perpendicular to radius..

mathslover (mathslover):

What matricked said :is actually proven through differentiating the given equation (as it gives you 17/0 that is infinite rise) and thus, tangent will be perpendicular line for the given y -coordinate.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

centre of the above circle is (2,4) hence the line y = 4 passes through the centre (2,4) and the (-15,4) thus the required tangent line will be a line which is perpendicular to y=4 and passes through(-15,4) so the required line is x=-15

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I really don't get this. I'm lost and confused. will that webpage really explain it all to me? I'm horrible at math & it sucks cause I have an exam on this stuff coming up soon :/

mathslover (mathslover):

Did you try to understand matricked's method?

hartnn (hartnn):

you have one point on the line, what else do you need to find to get the equation of the line ?

OpenStudy (akashdeepdeb):

If not differentiation, this can be solved by similarity in triangles.

hartnn (hartnn):

don't go for complications no differentiation, no similar triangles we have 2 points on a line, find slope since radius is perpendicular to slope, we get the slope of tangent since we have point on tangent, we get equation of tangent too

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm barely learning all this stuff. Sorry. I really don't know most of it. I do know similarity of triangles. But I would like to learn in depth about differentiation. Math is my weakest subject. But thank you all for helping >.<

hartnn (hartnn):

easy question : find centre of this circle, can you ? (x – 2)^2 + (y – 4)^2 = 289

OpenStudy (akashdeepdeb):

Oh haha! Excellent! @vachave412 Try what @hartnn just said. No differentiation is required here! Nor is any similarity theorem needed to solve this; Just plane ol' slopes and lines formulae. :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(2,4) @hartnn ? idk...

OpenStudy (akashdeepdeb):

*plain

hartnn (hartnn):

2,4 is correct! 2nd easy question : point (-15, 4) lies on this circle or not ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes........................

hartnn (hartnn):

good so as of now we have this : |dw:1399628045500:dw|

hartnn (hartnn):

i just joined those 2 points. do you know how to get slope of line when we have 2 points on it ?

hartnn (hartnn):

Formula : The slope of the line through points (x1,y1) and (x2,y2) is given by : \(\huge m=\frac{y_1-y_2}{x_1-x_2}\) now,just put the values and find m.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

* would be

hartnn (hartnn):

there are only 2 points 2,4 as center and -15,4 as end-point on circle so, to find the slope between them, take x1 = 2, y1 = 4 x2 =-15, y2 = 4 calculate m

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i got this!!:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0/17?....so the slope is.... 0 ?..... no? ok.. haha

hartnn (hartnn):

yes! slope =0 is correct! so, the radius segment, of which we found the slope as 0, is HORIZONTAL!

hartnn (hartnn):

now a couple of very important theorems : "Radius segment is perpendicular to Tangent"

hartnn (hartnn):

since radius segment is HORIZONTAL, tangent line will be VERTICAL see if this makes sense?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yayyyy! you're awesome thank you:) I love how you took the time to explain it. & everything makes sense:)

hartnn (hartnn):

good, since tangent is vertical, and point -15,4 lies on it, can you find its equation ?

hartnn (hartnn):

hint : equation of vertical line is of the form : x = c where c is the x co-ordinate of any point on the line

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(x+15)^2+(y−4)^2=289 ?

hartnn (hartnn):

i was asking for the equation of tangent line. since its Vertical, it has the equation in the form of x= c since point (-15,4) lies on it, c = x co-ordinate = -15 so the equation just becomes x = -15 thats it! got this ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oooooh lol . yes >.< thank you. thanks for being so helpful & patient

hartnn (hartnn):

welcome ^_^ review all the steps, ask if any doubt in any step. make yourself very clear on this, so that you can solve such problems very easily on your exam :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

awww, will do!! you have a good night, thanks! :')

hartnn (hartnn):

you have a great night with sweet dreams, good luck for the exam :)

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