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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
remainder for 3^124/17
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OpenStudy (ikram002p):
3^3 = 10 mod 17 ok ?
11 years ago
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
book says remainder 4
11 years ago
OpenStudy (ikram002p):
its 4 :P but do u have any method to solve it ?
11 years ago
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
(ax+1)^n/a gives remainder 1
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
(81)^31/17
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
(85-4)^31
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
nice :)
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
but that wont be useful cuz the last term would be (-4)^31
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
try ikram's method
atleast you will be able to take powers of 10 easily :)
11 years ago
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
(3^7)^17 will leave the same remainder when divided by 17 as 3^7, so we can address 3^7 · 3^5 = 3^12
And since 3^12 has remainder 4 when divided by 17, so will 3^124
PLEASE EXPLANE THE ABOVE
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
id like to try ikram's method first :
\[\large 3^{124} = 3^{3\times 40 + 4} = 3^4*27^{40} \equiv 3^4*10^{40} \]
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
THE original question was 54^124/17 which reduces to 3^124/17
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
\[\large \begin{array} \\ 3^{124} = 3^{3\times 40 + 4} = 3^4*27^{40} &\equiv 3^4*10^{40} \\
&\equiv 3^4*100^{20}\\
&\equiv 3^4*(-2)^{20} \\
&\equiv 3^4*(-2)^{4\times 5} \\
&\equiv 3^4*(16)^{ 5} \\
&\equiv 3^4*(-1)^{ 5} \\
&\equiv -3^4 \\
\end{array}\]
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
see if that looks okay so far ^^
11 years ago
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
can the (-4)^31/ 17 solved further ?
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Oh yes ! that gives you answer much faster !
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
\[\large (-4)^{31} = (-4)^{2\times 15 + 1} = -4 (-4)^{2\times 15} = -4(16)^{15}\]
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
\[\large \equiv -4(-1)^{15}\]
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
thats easy
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
\[\large \equiv -4(-1) = 4\]
yep :)
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OpenStudy (ikram002p):
nico
11 years ago
OpenStudy (ikram002p):
i just rememberd that
3^16=1 mod 17
xD
11 years ago
OpenStudy (ikram002p):
but thought he only use like calculation stuff
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
i think only ppl who take number theory knw about fermat
11 years ago
OpenStudy (ikram002p):
xD but its cool isnt it :P
i mean whats the point of calculation while we have fermat <3
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
3^16 = 1 mod 17 may throw off other students,
@mathmath333 do you want to know why 3^16/17 gives you 1 as remainder ?
11 years ago
OpenStudy (ikram002p):
=o
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
exactly ! if he knows fermat already, there is no point
11 years ago
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
well ,i dont know the modulo method lol
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Fair enough ! binomial expansion is powerful, but it works only in special cases... modulo method is more universal
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
can u give link for learning modulo method
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
if u have time, i can teach u... it only takes 30 minutes to see the beauty of congruences !
11 years ago
OpenStudy (ikram002p):
:o lol that would be cool to see how u do it in 30 mnts
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
ya
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
ok start the clock
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
it all starts with \(1\) definition and \(5\) theorems :
Definition :
\(\large a \equiv b \mod n\)
means
\(\large a-b\) is divisible by \(\large n\)
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
whats that 3 lines means
11 years ago
OpenStudy (ikram002p):
new post :o
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
for example :
\[\large 11\equiv 1 \mod 10\]
cuz \(\large 11-1\) is divisible by \(\large 10\)
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
you can read \(\large \equiv \) as `congruent to`
11 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
congruency i guess
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
yes ^^
11 years ago
OpenStudy (ikram002p):
time pasing :P
continue
11 years ago
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
ok
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
let me know once you're happy with the definition
11 years ago
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
ya i got it defn
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
fre more examples :
\[\large 7 \equiv 1 \mod 6\]
\[\large 100 \equiv 1 \mod 99\]
\[\large 23 \equiv -1 \mod 24\]
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
ok
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
all above examples must make sense before we dive into the \(5\) theorems
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
basically, we only need to stick to above definition to understand ANYTHING in congruences/modulo world
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
ready for first theorem ? :)
11 years ago
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
yes
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Theorem 1 :
if \(\large a\equiv b \mod n\) and \(\large c\equiv d \mod n\), then :
\(\large a+c \equiv b+d \mod n\)
\(\large ac \equiv bd \mod n\)
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
ok
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Is the statement of theorem clear ?
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
lets see an example
11 years ago
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
yaa
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
do you want to try and cook up an example ? :)
11 years ago
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
yes of cos
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
good, make some example..
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
I'll give you first example, maybe you can create the next example :)
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
we know that :
\(3 \equiv 1 \mod 2\)
\(2 \equiv 0 \mod 2\)
so, by Theorem 1 :
\(3+2\equiv 1+0 \mod 2\)
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
7=1 mod 6 and 13=7 mod 6
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
yes, thats a good example ^^
apply Theorem 1, what do u get ?
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
7+13=6+7
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
dont forget the mod symbol :
7+13=1+7 mod 6
11 years ago
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
okk
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Theorem1 just says this :
Sum of two numbers leaves the same reamainder as the sum of remainders of individual numbers
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
7+13=1+7 mod 6
20 = 8 mod 6
is this statement correct ? verify the definition
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
yaa
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
wait
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
20 = 8 mod 6
means
20-8 is divisible by 6
thats the definition, right ?
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Is 20-8 divisible by 6 ?
11 years ago
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
nooooooo
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
why not
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
20-8 = ?
11 years ago
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
it leaves remainder
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
20-8 = 12
are you saying 12 leaves a remainder when divided by 6 ?
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
oh sry
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
i tjought 20-6
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Theorem 1 is a theorem !
and a theorem can NEVER fail.
11 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
lets do one more example using theorem 1
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
yaa
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
5 = 1 mod 4
16 = 0 mod 4
apply Theorem 1
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