Tammy is at the dentist's office waiting on her appointment. She notices that the 6-inch-long minute hand is rotating around the clock and marking off time like degrees on a unit circle. Part 1: How many radians does the minute hand move from 1:20 to 1:55? (Hint: Find the number of degrees per minute first.) Part 2: How far does the tip of the minute hand travel during that time? Part 3: How many radians on the unit circle would the minute hand travel from 0° if it were to move 5π inches? Part 4: What is the coordinate point associated with this radian measure? show all of your work
Let's paraphrase this Part 1: a) What is the "central angle" when the minute had traces one complete circle? b) What is the central angle when the tip of the minute hand moves from time 1:20 to time 1:55? c) Use the 'arc length' formula, s = r * theta, to answer the question posed in Part !.
ok. now how do i find the number of degrees per minute
Part 1: How many radians does the minute hand move from 1:20 to 1:55? can you answer how many minutes (of time) the hand moved between 1:20 and 1:55 ?
35 minutes
a full circle is 60 minutes. what fraction is 35 minutes of the full circle ?
hmmm i know its over half
fraction will be part over whole
so probably 5/8? or is it a larger fraction
35 minutes out of 60 minutes, written as a fraction
i think its 7/12
it's the same idea as if you had 3 spoons, and you lose 2 of them. you lost ⅔ of your spoons. part/whole or 2/ 3 here 35/60
yes, 7/12 next idea: there are 2 pi radians in a full circle. you have 7/12 of a full circle how many radians do you have?
or, if you like to first use degrees. There are 360 degrees in a full circle and you have 7/12 of a full circle. how many degrees? (then to get radians multiply by 2 pi/180)
***oops: (then to get radians multiply by pi/180)
210 degrees
if the fraction were ½, it's more obvious. full circle is 2 pi radians ½ of that is ½ * 2pi = pi if you have ¾ of a circle, you have ¾ * 2 pi = 3 pi/2 yes 210º
and then i multiply that by pi/180?
yes
you should get 7/12 * 2 pi = 7pi/6 radians
ok... i got 7pi / 6
ok good
btw, their hint meant: 1 minute is 1/60 of a full circle. in degrees 1/60 of 360º= 6º per minute then multiply 35 minutes times 6º/minute to get 210º that works too (obviously)
ooh ok i didnt see that lol
Part 2: How far does the tip of the minute hand travel during that time? the minute hand's tip moved along the circumference of the circle. It went 7/12 of "all the way around" so one way to do the problem is figure out the circumference (using the very famous C= 2 pi r formula), then multiply by 7/12 or , because we know the angle in radians, we use the simple formula: arc= r theta, where theta is the angle in radians
ok lemme finish filling out part 1 real quick
ok done now lemme look at pt. 2
what's a lemme?
"let me" but its shorthand
oh
ok in the C=2pi r... our r is our radius correct
yes
would our radius be 6 inces because it says she notices the minute hand is 6 inches long
the radius of a circle is the distance from the center to the circumference. the minute hand starts at the center and goes to the circumference. its length is the radius
ok thats what i thought. so its C= 2(pi)(6)
yes, which simplifies to 12 pi
then i multiply that by 7/12
yes, because that is the fraction of the whole circumference the hand moved
i got 7pi
yes. based on the question, they may want you to use the formula \[ s = r \ \theta \] where r is 6, and theta is the angle in radians (from Part I) s is the length of the arc in inches. try that way.
our angle for theta would be 35?
no, theta is the answer to part I.
ok so our 7pi/6? or the 210
remember, the minute hand moved from 1:20 to 1:55 which is 35 minutes which is 35/60 of 360 degrees , which is 210º, which is 7pi/6 radians
the formula only works for theta in *radians*
oohhhh ok gotcha
ummm i got 7pi? is that right
does that match what you got doing it the other way ?
what do you mean by the other way?
scroll up
yeah i did it in s=r(theta)
you also did C= 2 pi r = 2 * pi*6= 12 pi then 7/12 * 12 pi = 7 pi
yes and i got the same answer for both
The first way is more common sense. the second way is faster if (1) you remember the formula (2) have theta in radians
ok id have to say it did seem quicker. alot less to write and was simpler
Part 3: How many radians on the unit circle would the minute hand travel from 0° if it were to move 5π inches?
almost done filling out pt. 2
done
For part 3, I would use s=r θ they give you s (the distance the minute hand moved), and r= 6 so you can find theta (it will be in radians)
would our s be 35?
35 is minutes. we are now looking at a circle with a radius of 6 inches and talking about moving so many inches around it (i.e. along its circumference) they told us how far we moved.
which was 7/12 or 210 degrees?
yes, but part 3 has moved to a different question. Part 3: How many radians on the unit circle would the minute hand travel from 0° if it were to move 5π inches? in other words, the minute hand moved 5π inches
soo multiply 5pi to see how many inche it moved?
the key thing is it moved *inches*. we could get a ruler and try to measure along the circle about 15.7 inches, to see where it ended up but they use the goofy 5 pi (instead of a number) so the numbers will work out nicer. So keep the distance as 5 pi (rather than 15.70796327....)
The idea is the *length of the arc* is measured in inches we use s=r θ
s=r θ they give you s (the distance the minute hand moved), and r= 6 so you can find theta (it will be in radians)
ok i had to step away for a sec lemme catch up real quick
ok so s would be 5 pi = 6(7pi/6)
almost. they gave you s and r, but we don't know theta for the s they gave us. Remember: this is a different problem
yep thats right i keep forgetting its a different problem so how would we find our theta
first write down the correct equation
ok 5pi = 6(theta)
any ideas how to "solve" for theta?
use these two ideas: 1) 6/6 is 1 2) if we divide one side of the equation by 6, we also divide the other side by 6
i cant find anything about it in my notes but i am missing 2 pages... i need to keep better notes lol
ok i get that
so what we do to one side we do to the other
yes. and in this case we want to divide the right side by 6 because it makes the 6/6 = 1
so the didvide 5(pi) by 6?
yes. not hard write 5pi/6 simple! you get 5 pi/6 radians = theta (you should put in the units so we don't get confused about inches, degrees or radians) remember this formula s= r theta assumes theta is in *radians*
so 5pi divided by 6 and ur answer is theta or theta is 5pi/6 the equation
can you be more clear?
i know it confused me
From the beginning (of Part 3) Part 3: How many radians on the unit circle would the minute hand travel from 0° if it were to move 5π inches? that says the minute hand moved 5 pi inches (along the arc) they want to know what angle that is (but in radians not degrees) we use s = r theta where s is the arc in inches, r is the radius in inches, theta is the angle in radians
ok theta be the sum of the nequation 5pi/6 or would theta be the equation 5pi over 6
you found 5 pi/6 radians = theta in other words, the angle theta is 5 pi/ 6 radians that is the answer.
How many radians on the unit circle would the minute hand travel? 5 pi/ 6 radians
ok so it would be 5pi = 6 (5pi/6)
that is a true equation (simplify the right side to get 5 pi) but the idea is 1) we want to find the angle theta 2) we found theta= 5 pi / 6 radians we found what the angle is. use its value as the answer to the question How many radians on the unit circle would the minute hand travel?
ok so part 3 answer is 5pi/6 radians
yes
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