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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

hard geometry problem, hurry! one medal will be given for a solution+good explanation :) \(\large a,b,c,d\) are sides of a quadrilateral with all angles < 180, and the length of no side/diagonal is greater than 1. show that the preimeter is \( \le 2+4\sin(\pi/12)\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

go ahead @ganeshie8

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

I don't have a solution for this, i am still trying...

OpenStudy (kainui):

So the perimeter is \[\LARGE P \le 2+4\sin( \frac{\pi}{12})\] is that right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes thats the thing we need to prove

OpenStudy (kainui):

ok, just making sure the latex or whatever wasn't really showing up.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

prove \[\large a+b+c+d \le 2+4\sin( \frac{\pi}{12})\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we're given that they are sides of a quadrilateral, and the lengths of sides and diagonals are <= 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are diagonals necessarily perpendicular to each other?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

need not be, its just some random convex quadrilateral

OpenStudy (kainui):

Nope @k142 |dw:1407608424251:dw|

OpenStudy (kainui):

maybe I should have drawn |dw:1407608469320:dw| instead lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Haha! I got!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but there must be a clue to start..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

unfortunaltely no hints given :( i thought i figured out the solution while posting this problem, but i found a huge blunder in my work later!

OpenStudy (kainui):

Does having diagonals of length 1 necessarily imply that the other sides have to be less than or equal to 1 already?

OpenStudy (kainui):

Ahhh... no it doesn't. |dw:1407608821504:dw|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what was that blunder in your work?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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