Please help me! I'll fan and give a medal! The function f(x)=16(5)^x represents the growth of a bee population every year in a remote swamp. Jennifer wants to manipulate the formula to an equivalent form that calculates two times a year, not just once a year. Which function is correct for Jennifer's purpose, and what is the new growth rate?
@phi
@Zarkon
@jhonyy9
this one is a bit tricky.
How so?
2 times a year, then make an exponent 2x. In other words multiply the exponent times 2.
I thought that may be it- is there any reason to change the number in the parentheses, or the coeffienct?
I am assuming that every growth, is different, and that 2 growths in one year aren;t same.
I think so- I'm not entirely sure. The problem is kind of vague regarding that...
Or if the 2 growths in the year are same, then make it 10, instead of 5.
Well, that isn't in any of the answer choices, so let's assume that they vary
So, if the 2 growths in a year vary, you will get \(\normalsize\color{black}{ f(x)=16(5)^{2x}}\), and if they don't then you get \(\normalsize\color{black}{ f(x)=16(10)^{x}}\).\(\LARGE\color{white}{ \rm │ }\)
Ok- how would you go about finding the new growth rate?
just solve for x?
Here is how to do it: \[ 16(5)^x = 16(1+ 4)^x \] if we double to two per year, we use 2x as the exponent. However, the growth rate (the 4) must change (call it y): \[ 16(1+ y)^{2x} \] we want that to give the same number as the original equation. in other words, after 1 year: 16(5)^1 gives 16*5 we want \[ 16(1+ y)^{2} = 16 \cdot 5\\ (1+ y)^{2} = 5 \\ 1+y= \sqrt{5} \\ y= \sqrt{5}-1\]
the answer will be \[ 16(1+\sqrt{5}-1 )^{2x} \\ 16(2.24)^{2x} \]
That makes sense- thank you @phi and @SolomonZelman
with 2 growths the only thing changes that there are 2 growths, but not the overall growth per year ?
I'm not sure what you mean
I mean that he is just basically doing this, \(\normalsize\color{black}{ f(x)=16(5)^x}\) is equivalent to, \(\LARGE\color{white}{ \rm │ }\) \(\normalsize\color{black}{ f(x)=16(\sqrt{5}^2)^x}\)\(\LARGE\color{white}{ \rm │ }\) \(\normalsize\color{black}{ f(x)=16(\sqrt{5})^{2x}}\)\(\LARGE\color{white}{ \rm │ }\)
But the growth per year doesn't change from this
when it should
I am not trying to argue, I am just trying to understand this...
Ok... I don't mean to be dense, but isn't that essentially what you did? xcept he added the radical sign in the parentheses?
Here is a graph of both functions. As you see, they are identical curves. However, they have different growth rates.
I see, so it is just that you do not change the yearly growth... then yes
So, the growth rate is exactly the same, just written differently?
oi
I thought you change the growth, adding another, additional, growth `×5` so that there are two `×5` growths..... (misinterpretation )
the growth rate is different as phi showed.
I am just saying what I thought the problem was
Ok! Thank @SolomonZelman
*thanks
Would you mind helping me with a problem an arithmetic sequence?
Anytime... even though I didn't actually help.
Yes, if I know how to do it....
I thought you did :)
What are the explicit equation and domain for an arithmetic sequence with a first term of 6 and a second term of 2?
domain of n, or the terms ?
thinking about it, I made it too complicated. To solve do this \[ 16(5)^x = 16(5)^{\frac{1}{2} \cdot 2 \cdot x} \\ = 16(5^\frac{1}{2})^{2x} \\ = 16 (\sqrt{5})^{2x} \]
\(\large\color{black}{ a_1}\) is 6, and \(\large\color{black}{ a_2}\) is 2,. So d= ?
can you find the difference ?
I think so- the answer choices show the explicit equation, then an inequality of n and 1 or 0 (they vary)
4?
Close... can you post the choices?
You subtract 4, because to get from 6 to 2, you subtract 4. Right? so d=-4.
Sure- give me a moment- I need to type them out and I'm not exactly fast
Okay :)
a sub(n) = 6-2(n-1); all integers where n is greater than or equal to 1 a sub(n) = 6-2(n-1); all integers where n is greater than or equal to 0 a sub(n) = 6-4(n-1); all integers where n is greater than or equal to 0 a sub(n) = 6-4(n-1); all integers where n is greater than or equal to 1
I'm ready for something big here @SolomonZelman ;)
\(\large \color{black}{ a_{n}=6-2(n-1).~~~~\rm ~ all~~integers,~~ n≥1}\) \(\LARGE\color{white}{ \rm │ }\) \(\large \color{black}{ a_{n}=6-2(n-1).~~~~\rm ~ all~~integers,~~ n≥0}\) \(\LARGE\color{white}{ \rm │ }\) \(\large \color{black}{ a_{n}=6-4(n-1).~~~~\rm ~ all~~integers,~~ n≥0}\) \(\LARGE\color{white}{ \rm │ }\) \(\large \color{black}{ a_{n}=6-4(n-1).~~~~\rm ~ all~~integers,~~ n≥1}\) \(\LARGE\color{white}{ \rm │ }\)
yep
exactly
The number in front of the `(n-1)` is the difference. Based on that, exclude A and B and the domain for n can be 1 or greater, since a term can be \(\normalsize\color{black}{ 1}\)st, \(\normalsize\color{black}{ 2}\)nd, \(\normalsize\color{black}{3}\)rd... and on. But, not \(\normalsize\color{black}{ 0}\)th. Exclude C
So D is my correct answer?
For all the time we spent typing the answers, that took about 10 seconds XD
oi... I have so many more problems. This is a sad day.
But at least we got this prob :) (sorry for a late reply)
It's fine :) Thank you so much for the help! This really is a very generous thing to do
yw
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