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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Question!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can i split \[\sum_{r=1}^{n} r^{5}\] to \[\sum_{r=1}^{n} r^{3} . \sum_{r=1}^{n} r^{2}\] ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if not how should i evaluate \[\sum_{r=1}^{n} r^{5} \]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

before answering that question, do you know what a sum notation represents ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

can you evaluate : \[\large \sum \limits_{r=1}^5 r\] ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

5r*

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

nope, \(r\) is just a dummy variable - its used only to index

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it 1+2+3+4+5 = 15

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes ! \[\large \sum \limits_{r=1}^5 r\] is same as \[\large 1+2+3+4+5\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large \sum \limits_{r=1}^8 r^3\] is same as \[\large 1^3+2^3+3^3+4^3+5^3+6^3+7^3+8^3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have the formula for r, r^2 and r^3

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so you cannot split the sum as product of two other sums, but you can certainly split it as below : \[\large \sum \limits_{r=1}^8 r^3 =\left(\sum \limits_{r=1}^8 r^3\right) + \left(\sum \limits_{r=1}^8 r^3\right) \]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Oh so are you trying to find a formula for fifth powers of first few numbers ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so you cannot split the sum as product of two other sums, but you can certainly split it as below : \[\huge \sum \limits_{r=1}^n r^5 = ?\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm.. not necessarily the formula but how to evaluate it

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

is that what you're trying to find ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

@ikram002p any idea how to find the fifth powers of first few numbers ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

wolfram gives this neat formula >.< http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%5Csum+%5Climits_%7Br%3D1%7D%5En++r%5E5+

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

never derived it befor

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

show us how to work it now :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

like for 'r' it is \[\frac{n}{2}n(n+1)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

erm.. but if i dont know the formula how to solve it ><

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hahah nice im learning i never knew this stuff *0* sorry for butting in haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Question is.. Conjecture a general formula for \[\frac{2}{n ^{3}}\sum_{r=1}^{n}(r ^{3}+3r ^{5})\], and prove it by mathematical induction

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes i know the proofs for below : \[\large \begin{align} \\ \sum \limits_{r=1}^n r &= \dfrac{n(n+1)}{2} \\~\\ \sum \limits_{r=1}^n r^2 &= \dfrac{n(n+1)(2n+1)}{6} \\~\\ \sum \limits_{r=1}^n r^3 &= \left(\dfrac{n(n+1)}{2}\right)^2 \\~\\ \end{align}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

never had to work beyond these haha!

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

wow !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes. i was told to memorise up til r^3 too

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got\[\frac{2}{n ^{3}}[\sum_{r=1}^{n} r ^{3} +3 \sum_{r=1}^{n} r ^{5})]\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok where did everyone go.. =.=

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