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OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Limit

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

@ganeshie8

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

\[\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} a_n~~~where~~~a_n = \left( \frac{ n+1 }{ n-1 } \right)^n\]

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

L'hospital rule doesn't apply since it's not a function, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't think it would. I recognize that question, and I'm looking for it in my notes right now.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No good. Sorry, I can't find it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is answer e^(2)

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

I don't care about the answer, I want to know how to do it.

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

I'm guessing we have to let f(x) = f(a_n) or something...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if I know the answer i can counter check. thats why i am asking

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

How did you get e^2?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

That's from calc 1? Rings a bell, can't remember it entirely though haha.

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Techworm I think you're right

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

remember this definition of e^x ? \[\large \lim\limits_{t\to \infty} \left(1+\frac{x}{t}\right)^{t} = e^x \]

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

\[f(x) = \left( \frac{ x+1 }{ x-1 } \right)^x\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Notice that n+1 = n-1+2

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\Large \lim\limits_{n\to \infty} \left(\frac{n+1}{n-1}\right)^{n} = \lim\limits_{n\to \infty} \left(1 + \frac{2}{n-1}\right)^{n} \]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

is that clear

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

I'm not sure why they =?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\Large \dfrac{n+1}{n-1} = \dfrac{(n-1)+2}{n-1} = \dfrac{n-1}{n-1} + \dfrac{2}{n-1} = ?\]

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Oh derp, haha, that makes sense, thanks :P

OpenStudy (isaiah.feynman):

Good one. @Astrophysics

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

are you really sure why it equals e^2 ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the denominator has n-1 and not n, doesn't that bother you ?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yeah it does lol, I was trying to get my head around it.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

as n goes to infinity, n-1 is same as n

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

n-1000000000000 is same as n

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

finite numbers don't matter for the limit

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Nice!

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

I get it now, thanks

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

If you don't have faith in that, you can work it out using substitution : substitute t = n-1 the limit becomes : \[\lim\limits_{t\to \infty} \left(1+\frac{2}{t}\right)^{t+1}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[ \lim\limits_{t\to \infty} \left(1+\frac{2}{t}\right)^{t+1} = \lim\limits_{t\to \infty} \left(1+\frac{2}{t}\right)^{t} \times \lim\limits_{t\to \infty} \left(1+\frac{2}{t}\right) \]

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