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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Help with Calculus please! Find: lim as n approaches infinity of nsin(pi/n)

OpenStudy (freckles):

i think you can use squeeze thm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

squeeze?

OpenStudy (freckles):

also know as pinch or even sandwich theorem

OpenStudy (freckles):

or maybe a series expansion that would be fun :)

OpenStudy (gorv):

lim n->∞ sin(PI/n) / (1/n) 0/0 form : Use L'Hopital's Rule lim n->∞ (-PI /n^2)cos(PI/n) /(-1/n^2) lim n->∞ PI cos(PI/n) as n->∞ , cos(PI/n) -> cos(0)=1 so the limits is 'PI'

OpenStudy (gorv):

=lim n->infinity sin(PI/n) / (1/n) 0/0 form : Use L'Hopital's Rule =lim n->infinity (-PI /n^2)cos(PI/n) /(-1/n^2) = lim n->infinity PI cos(PI/n) as n->infinity , cos(PI/n) -> cos(0)=1 so the limits is 'PI'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks gorv but is there a way to solve it without bringing in cos?

OpenStudy (freckles):

substitution would work recall \[\lim_{u \rightarrow 0}\frac{\sin(u)}{u}=1\] \[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty} \pi \frac{\sin(\frac{\pi}{x})}{\frac{\pi}{x}}\] let u=pi/x so if x goes to infty, then u goes to 0

OpenStudy (gorv):

L'Hopital's Rule use derivative thatz why cos comes here derivative of sin

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks frecles gorv, so if cos(0)=1, why is the limit pi?

OpenStudy (freckles):

i think he meant to write pi*cos(pi/n) the inside goes to 0 so you have pi*cos(0) pi*1=pi

OpenStudy (freckles):

you know because he had (-pi/x^2)/(-1/x^2) he canceled out the -1/x^2's but he still had a pi that he probably forgot to type in but it is meant to be there in that one line

OpenStudy (freckles):

or actually he didn't really make an error in typing in anything he said

OpenStudy (freckles):

you know because he didn't use = for each line

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\frac{\sin(\frac{\pi}{n})}{\frac{1}{n}} =\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\frac{\frac{-\pi}{n^2} \cos(\frac{\pi}{n})}{\frac{-1}{n^2}}\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

see how the -1/n^2 's cancel?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no T_T

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \pi \frac{\frac{-1}{n^2} \cos(\frac{\pi}{n})}{\frac{-1}{n^2}}\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

how about now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (freckles):

so we see how we have this: \[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty} \pi \cos(\frac{\pi}{n})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes but I thought it was ((-pi/n^2)cos(pi/n))/(-1/n^2)

OpenStudy (freckles):

the -1/n^2's canceled

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but there's only one (-1/n^2). how does (-pi/n^2) and (-1/n^2) cancel?

OpenStudy (freckles):

-pi/n^2 is equal to pi times -1/n^2

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\frac{\sin(\frac{\pi}{n})}{\frac{1}{n}} =\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\frac{\frac{-\pi}{n^2} \cos(\frac{\pi}{n})}{\frac{-1}{n^2}} \\=\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{\pi \cdot \frac{-1}{n^2} \cos(\frac{\pi}{n})}{\frac{-1}{n^2}}=\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\frac{\pi \cdot \cancel{\frac{-1}{n^2}} \cos(\frac{\pi}{n})}{\cancel{\frac{-1}{n^2}}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

omg thank you!!

OpenStudy (freckles):

np

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