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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
find the remainder of
\(\Large\tt \color{black}{30^{72^{87}}}\) divided by 11
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
work 72^87 mod 10 first
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
its 8
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
can i apply fermat number here
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
yes thats right! may i know how you got 8 ?
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
its 2^87/10
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
to be honest, idk the method you're using but it seems very interesting
can you teach me quick if possible ? xD
OpenStudy (ikram002p):
its the 2,4,8,6, rule :P
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Oh cycle ?
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
lol its very easy (7*10+2)10 leaves remainder 2^87/10
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
i mean (7*10+2)&87/10 leaves remainder 2^87/10
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
this one (7*10+2)^87/10 leaves remainder 2^87/10
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
\[\large \dfrac{72^{87}}{10} = \dfrac{(7*10 + 2)^{87}}{10} = \dfrac{2^{87}}{10}\]
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
nice :) how do you reduce 2^87 ?
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
its the old remainder theorm i think (ax+b)^n mod a leaves b
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
by binomial theorem : (ax+b)^n mod a leaves b^n
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
leaves b^n i mean
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
(ax+b)^n = aM + b^n = b^n mod a
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
okay whats the trick for reducing 2^87 ?
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
2*2^(86) mod 10= 2^3*16^(21) mod 10 ..and so on
u need even power to reduce
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
if u follow the cycle its easiest
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
2^87 = 2^3*2^84 = 2^3*(16)^21 = 8*6 = 8
like that ?
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
yes
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Very clever indeed, i use congruences to reduce which is something similar to this but i like your method as it looks more natural xD
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
yes but 1 month earlier u told congruencies are universal
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Ok, so what do we have so far
30^72^87 = 30^(10M+8)
right ?
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
yes they are still universal, but it requires some theory to be known to appreciate them
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
we use fermat number
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
you mean we use Fermat little theorem
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
yes this one
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
30^(10M+8) = 30^8*30^(10M)
= 30^8*1 mod 11
= ...
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
u mean we can use fermat here ?
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
yes since 11 is a prime :
\[\large a^{10} \equiv 1 \pmod {11}\]
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
see you can't fully avoid congruences :P
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
i always avoid it
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
i use remainder theorm ,but this had a^b^c so i cant use it here
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
hmm what do you get after applying fermat little theorem ?
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
we got rid of exponent right
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
30^72^87 = 30^(10M+8)
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
its 6!!
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
show work
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OpenStudy (mathmath333):
30^8/11
=8^8/11
=64^4/11
=(-2)^4/11
=16/11
its 5 sry
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
am i right
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Excellent !!
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
so for fermat do i have to always reduce b^c/10 in a^b^c
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
thats not fermet, but it depends on what number you're dividing by
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
if you're dividing by 13, you reduce b^c/12
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
if you're dividing by 19, you reduce b^c/18
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
because fermat theorem says this :
\[\large a^{p-1}\equiv 1 \pmod p\]
OpenStudy (mathmath333):
ok thanks very much for help
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@ganeshie8 please help me!!