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OpenStudy (anonymous):

math?? Caculus 1! screenshot attached

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (phi):

the first step is write down the equation for the area of a circle. can you do that ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2 (x-h)+(y+8)=r^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

OpenStudy (freckles):

area of a circle is pi*r^2

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[A(t)=\pi*(r(t))^2 \]

OpenStudy (phi):

you wrote down the equation of a circle with center (h,k) and radius r we want the area of a circle.

OpenStudy (freckles):

We wanted that equation because it talked about finding the rate of the area changing when the rate of the radius (of the circle ) is changing. This means we need to somehow find a relationship between area of a circle and radius of a circle. The equation that relates them two is the equation for the area of a circle.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so @freckles has it right? correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no wonder it didn't make sense!

OpenStudy (freckles):

Yes freckles has the area of a circle correct. Are you asking freckles or phi though. lol. What? What doesn't make sense?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it will be like this A(t)=pie *(7(8))^2 @freckles @phi

OpenStudy (freckles):

r(t) wasn't it r times t

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i get 9852.03

OpenStudy (freckles):

r(t) was just meant that radius is a function of time

OpenStudy (phi):

we leave the variables in (until later) and pi is pi not pie so \[ A = \pi r^2 \]

OpenStudy (freckles):

to find rates you need to differentiate

OpenStudy (freckles):

r(t) wasn't r times t*

OpenStudy (phi):

the next step is to "take the derivative with respect to time" \[ \frac{d}{dt} A = \pi\frac{d}{dt} r^2 \] Do you know how to do that ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

r is rate? or radius?

OpenStudy (phi):

r is radius

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no i don't

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i did have it right?

OpenStudy (phi):

morally speaking, no. The idea is to use calculus to find the change in A with time and relate that to the change in the radius with time.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay i am completely lost, it's just setting up the equation to be able to then derive both sides?

OpenStudy (phi):

this question usually arises later in calculus, when you know how to take derivatives. Here, both the area A and the radius "r" are changing with time (so dA/dt and dr/dt exist) \[ \frac{d}{dt} A = \pi\frac{d}{dt} r^2 \\ \frac{dA}{dt} =\pi\frac{d}{dt} r^2 \]

OpenStudy (phi):

to find the derivative of r^2 you use the power rule \[ d x^n = n x^{n-1} dx \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay thank you, i barely learned how to take derivatives, but of simple problems, not qute this far yet

OpenStudy (phi):

It takes more than a few hours to learn calculus, but if you have time, you can watch Khan https://www.khanacademy.org/math/differential-calculus/taking-derivatives/derivative_intro/v/calculus-derivatives-1-new-hd-version It may refresh your memory. btw, your problem in this post is "related rates", which he tackles here https://www.khanacademy.org/math/differential-calculus/derivative_applications/rates_of_change/v/rates-of-change-between-radius-and-area-of-circle

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