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OpenStudy (imstuck):

I was under the impression this one could only be solved using the volume? Why is it saying to use area? Help!

OpenStudy (imstuck):

Water is flowing out of a garden hose at a rate of 10 gallons per minute into a circular swimming pool that has a diameter of 16 ft. How fast is the water rising in the pool in inches per minute? (Hint: The area of a circle is A=pi r^2)

OpenStudy (imstuck):

I don't see how this could be solved using the area of a circle. I was almost thinking it had to be a rate of change using the derivative. But this is basic Math 070.

OpenStudy (gorv):

well in this we dont know the depth of the swimming pool so we need to use the area

OpenStudy (gorv):

means in one minute 10 gallons of water fall in the pool let depth of pool up to which it is filled by 10 gallon = x ft

OpenStudy (gorv):

10 gallon /minute = (area of circle *x)/minute

OpenStudy (gorv):

10=pi*16^2*x x=10/(pi*16^2)

OpenStudy (gorv):

this depth of pool filled in one minute so rate of fill = x/minute

OpenStudy (imstuck):

That doesn't make sense to me at all. I really don't understand what you just did.

OpenStudy (imstuck):

@amistre64

OpenStudy (amistre64):

got it

OpenStudy (imstuck):

WHY did they say to use the area?!!!!! I don't get that at all! How does it relate?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the rate at which a volume is changing is directly related to area

OpenStudy (imstuck):

how?

OpenStudy (imstuck):

area is for a flat, 2 dimensional figure. This is a 3d problem, in my eyes.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

also, how do we find the volume of a cylindar?

OpenStudy (imstuck):

volume equals pi times the rate squared times the height of the cylinder.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

pi times the radius squared

OpenStudy (amistre64):

or Base area ... times height

OpenStudy (imstuck):

still not making sense.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

we know 10 gallons a minute is coming in, what is that in cubic inches per minute in order to get the dimensions the same

OpenStudy (imstuck):

2310 in cubic inches.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the wolf says 1 gallon is equal to 231 cubic inches

OpenStudy (amistre64):

10 galons is therefore 2310 cubicinches yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

so we know the volume per minute that is coming into the pool, what is the base area of the pool

OpenStudy (imstuck):

64pi

OpenStudy (imstuck):

201.06

OpenStudy (amistre64):

hmm, lets convert 16 feet into inches

OpenStudy (imstuck):

area is in units squared. Volume is cubic.

OpenStudy (gorv):

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OpenStudy (imstuck):

192 inches.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

pi (r in)^2 * (h in) = k (in)^3

OpenStudy (amistre64):

well, 8 feet radius, is 96 inches

OpenStudy (gorv):

in this if we go up we will consider it as water is travelling up with what speed

OpenStudy (imstuck):

what the heck is that k up above, @amistre64

OpenStudy (gorv):

like water level is rising 2 ft /minute 3 ft /minute

OpenStudy (amistre64):

so 96 inches ^2 * pi * h inches = 2310 inches^3 96 * pi * h inches^3 = 2310 inches^3 solve for h

OpenStudy (gorv):

so we consider that water poured in it equal to = areal * height

OpenStudy (gorv):

pi*r^2 * height

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ugh, 96 is squared as well since its the r lol

OpenStudy (gorv):

you r right @amistre64

OpenStudy (amistre64):

96^2 * pi * h inches^3 = 2310 inches^3 does this make sense?

OpenStudy (imstuck):

no this doesn't make sense to me AT ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

OpenStudy (gorv):

lookkk

OpenStudy (imstuck):

where did you get the cube on the h?

OpenStudy (gorv):

tell me the volume of pool filled ??

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the conversions are the hardest part, the rest is pretty basic

OpenStudy (gorv):

@IMStuck i can try if u will follow

OpenStudy (gorv):

if u had area and height can u calculate volume ???

OpenStudy (imstuck):

Oh1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes I can do that!

OpenStudy (imstuck):

The pi r^2 part of volume is the same as the area of the circle. I see that.

OpenStudy (gorv):

but here height = rise in water level

OpenStudy (gorv):

yeah

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[Basearea(height)=volume\] \[pi~(r)^2(h)=(10~gallons)\] \[pi~(8~ft)^2(h)=2310~in^3\] \[pi~(96~in)^2(h)=2310~in^3\]

OpenStudy (gorv):

initially water level =0

OpenStudy (gorv):

let after puting 10 gallon now water level = x feet

OpenStudy (gorv):

so now water rose from 0 to x feet in one minute

OpenStudy (imstuck):

ok, the second step up there is where I'm confused, @amistre64 Where you said this: pi r^2 h = 10 gallons.

OpenStudy (imstuck):

guys don't leave me here!

OpenStudy (amistre64):

why? we are told 10 gallons is the volume per minute, and we have established the p r^2 h is the volume of a cylindar equate the 2 of them

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the rest is conversion to inches to determine the required solution in inches per minute

OpenStudy (imstuck):

but the volume is not equal to 10 gallons per minute....it's changing constantly. It is never JUST 10 gallons so I don't see how you can equate them.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

'Water is flowing out of a garden hose at a rate of 10 gallons per minute' use the information provided instead of making up a different problem

OpenStudy (amistre64):

in accounting classes i was real good at solving the problem that i made up instead of the problem that was being asked :)

OpenStudy (imstuck):

lol. I know I'm making it harder than it should be. I still don't get the "equate them" thing.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

what is the volume of a cylindar? what is the volume that is coming from the hose? volume of cylindar = volume from hose

OpenStudy (amistre64):

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OpenStudy (imstuck):

This is what I have so far... can you help me take it from there?|dw:1412181087191:dw|

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