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OpenStudy (loser66):

Need help understanding the concept. Does \(\dfrac{(-1)^n}{n}\) converge or diverge?

OpenStudy (loser66):

Let \(X_n= \dfrac{(-1)^n}{n}\)

OpenStudy (loser66):

\(X_n= (-1)^n *\dfrac{1}{n}\) so that \(lim X_n =lim (-1)^n *lim 1/n = 0 \) Which shows it converges. Am I right?

OpenStudy (loser66):

One more thing, if Xn diverges , is it possible that it is bounded and have lim? for example \(X_n = (-1)^n \) it is diverge, but it is bounded by -1, and 1,

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

it converges for sure, but not the limit test is not useful. you have used alternating series test, right ?

OpenStudy (math&ing001):

A series that doesn't have a limit it converges, so yeah it's possible for it to be bounded.

OpenStudy (math&ing001):

Diverges*

OpenStudy (loser66):

I don't use test to know whether it converges or not, because it is trivial that lim =0 :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

sequence converges does not imply the series converges

OpenStudy (loser66):

a sequence converges --> it has a limit, right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes oh you're talkign about sequence.. then fine :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks i have misread the question as series hmm

OpenStudy (loser66):

What do you mean by "opposite"?

OpenStudy (math&ing001):

I though you talked about series

OpenStudy (math&ing001):

I meant the other way arround

OpenStudy (loser66):

@ganeshie8 I confuse between conve/diverge of sequence and series, too. But for now, it is a sequence, solve it first. I will ask for series later

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you have already solved it right, whats there to solve further ?

OpenStudy (loser66):

@math&ing001 a sequence converges--> has limit a sequence diverges --> no bound --> no limit, right?

OpenStudy (math&ing001):

Yeah, that's right.

OpenStudy (loser66):

how about \(X_n= (-1)^n\), it diverges but bounded by -1,1

OpenStudy (loser66):

and supremum is 1, infimum is -1.

OpenStudy (math&ing001):

Yes that's was I was talking about earlier, it may be bounded but still diverges because it has no limit.

OpenStudy (loser66):

You see, it confuses me, earlier: diverges --> no bound--> no limit this case: diverges --> but bounded. ha??

OpenStudy (math&ing001):

I didn't pay attention to your post, this should be removed : a sequence converges--> has limit a sequence diverges -->(( no bound -->)) no limit

OpenStudy (math&ing001):

By the way, I think you're talking about series here. This is the sequence (-1)^1 , (-1)^2/2 , (-1)^3/3 , ..... This is the series (-1)^1 + (-1)^2/2 + (-1)^3/3 + .....

OpenStudy (loser66):

I know the definition of series, it just partial sum of sequence. However, all concept about series come from sequence. So that I want to make it clear before moving to the series. Obviously, the sequence (-1)^n has 2 converged subsequences (1)^n and (-1)^n where n even and odd respectively. But itself (-1)^n is diverges. And I confused about its bounds

OpenStudy (loser66):

Or: bounded sequence doesn't mean the sequence convergent. ? And it confuses me also. Ha!!

OpenStudy (math&ing001):

Yeah I understand the confusion, just remember this : -1<(-1)^n<1 => \[\sum_{}^{}(-1) \le \sum_{}^{}(-1)^{n} \le \sum_{}^{} 1\] and technically both those series diverge so it doesn't mean anything.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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