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OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Kainui

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright, I'm given \[F = - \alpha e^{\beta v}\] and I have to find v(t), my set up is right, just want to check the math :P F = ma <3 \[- \alpha e^{\beta v} = ma \implies \frac{ dv }{ dt } = \frac{ -\alpha e^{\beta v} }{ m }\]

OpenStudy (kainui):

So far so good. =)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ dv }{ e^{\beta v} } = - \frac{ \alpha }{ m } dt \implies \int\limits \frac{ dv }{ e^{bv} } = \int\limits - \frac{ \alpha }{ m } dt\] \[\int\limits e^{-\beta v} dv = - \frac{ \alpha }{ m } \int\limits dt \implies - \frac{ 1 }{ \beta} e^{-\beta v} = - \frac{ \alpha }{ m }t +C\] Looking at my initial conditions t = 0, v = v0, now I'll solve for C. \[C = - \frac{ 1 }{ \beta } e^{- \beta v_0}\] \[- \frac{ 1 }{ \beta } e^{-\beta v} - \frac{ 1 }{ \beta } e^{-\beta vo} = - \frac{ \alpha }{ m }t \implies - \frac{ e^{-\beta v}+e^{-\beta v_0} }{ ? } = - \frac{ \alpha }{ m } t\] \[e^{-\beta v}+ e^{- \beta v_0} = \frac{ \alpha }{ m } \beta t\] \[e^{-\beta v} = \frac{ \alpha }{ m } \beta t - e^{-\beta v_0}\] \[- \beta v = \ln \left( \frac{ \alpha }{ m } \beta t - e ^{-\beta v_0}\right)\] \[v(t) = - \frac{ 1 }{ \beta } \ln ( \frac{ \alpha }{ m } \beta t - e^{-\beta v_0})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh that should be -(stuff)/beta don't know why it didn't show up

OpenStudy (kainui):

So far I think I found one error right after you solved for C you plugged it in on the wrong side so the sign is wrong on that term.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh crap!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I thought there was something fishy going on haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, that's it haha!

OpenStudy (kainui):

I am still looking though, not done yet =P

OpenStudy (kainui):

Yeah done, aside from that I think it checks out to be perfectly right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Haha, alright, so quick question, when dealing with separable equations and placing constant when you integrate it doesn't matter where you put the constant right, like it would be alright if I put +C on the left side, rather on the right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits\limits e^{-\beta v} dv = - \frac{ \alpha }{ m } \int\limits\limits dt \implies - \frac{ 1 }{ \beta} e^{-\beta v} +C = - \frac{ \alpha }{ m }t \] like I could do that rather than have constant on the right

OpenStudy (kainui):

Yeah that's perfectly fine cause when you work out initial conditions, here's an example: y+C=x y=x+K Let's say at x = 0 we have M M+C=0 M=-C y-M=x other equation M=0+K y=x+M yay math

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Got ya, thanks man! :P

OpenStudy (kainui):

Yeah no problem any time, now you're getting into fun stuff. =D Actually one last question I forgot to ask, what is alpha and beta? Like, for instance, do they depend on time or are they constants?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

constants

OpenStudy (kainui):

Oh then you're good.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yup, thanks again :P

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