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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Help me find a limit! Will fan and medal!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lim x-> -6 for (sqrt(x^2 + 12x + 36))/ (x+6)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is a vertical limit I am looking for, correct?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow ~6}\frac{\sqrt{x^2+12x+36}}{x+6}}\) can you factor inside the root ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

oh, my bad, it is \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow ~-6}\frac{\sqrt{x^2+12x+36}}{x+6}}\), but still factor inside the root.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it would then be sqrt ((x+6)^2)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and then x+6/x+6 as a whole

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes, and sqrt((x+6)^2) is ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\sqrt{A^2}=A}\) you know that correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes. I know it would simplify to (x+6)/(x+6). would that then be one or zero?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am seeing that these could cancel each other out to be 1/1 or if I were to first fill it in with x=-6, it would be zero? But neither of these seem to make sense with the graph?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow ~-6}\frac{\sqrt{x^2+12x+36}}{x+6}}\) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow ~-6}\frac{\sqrt{(x+6)^2}}{x+6}}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

don't look at the graph (or, not yet at least). \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow ~-6}\frac{\sqrt{(x+6)^2}}{x+6}}\) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow ~-6}\frac{x+6}{x+6}}\) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow ~-6} 1}\) good.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

when you have a limit of a constant, it is just that constant. (because there is no x to plug in for)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

So, the limit is -6.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you probably tried looking at f(-6), and that is different.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am confused. My class taught me to then sub -6 in for x because it was asking for the limit of this graph as x approaches -6?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

f(-6) does not exist, because there is a restriction in the initial expression for x to equal -6 (zero in denominator). Now, you general find restrictions before simplifying, so there is on \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle x\ne -6 }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

there are two parts for this limit, as it approaches 6 fro,=m the left, and as it is approaches 6 from the right. when you find the limit, you COULD simplify, and then evaluate the limit, and that is what we did, we got: \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow ~-6} 1}\) and there is nothing to plug in for x, so you have: \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow ~-6} 1=1}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That isn't even an option given in my multiple choice? And that doesn't seem to make sense based on what I was taught?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@SolomonZelman I was given options a) does not exist b)36 c)0 d) infinity e) -infinity ... I understand how simplifying brought it to one, but it really is not an option.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

it is 1, unless you wrote the limit incorrectly.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I did not. Are you sure I shouldn't have plugged in x=-6 before it was simplified for one to give zero? I know that there is not a vertical asymptote there. Should I look at the graph for further confirmation? There is definitely points at x=1, too, there is no vertical limit there.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@SolomonZelman

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

it doesn't exist I guess.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I didn't consider your intial function, only the way it is simplified.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

My calculator is having a hard time giving a picture of the original function around -6... is there any chance it is infinity or negative infinity? I can't imagine it would be but would like to double check

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

But you want \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow ~-6}}\) https://www.desmos.com/calculator/ecfwroztz0 \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow ~-6+}f(x)=1}\) \(\large\color{slate}{\displaystyle\lim_{x \rightarrow ~-6-}f(x)=-1}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Then it would not exist because the two sides do not agree?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\sqrt{(x+6)^2}=x+6 \text{ if } x+6>0 \\ \sqrt{(x+6)^2}=-(x+6) \text{ if } x+6<0\]

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

wait, but here x+6=0

OpenStudy (freckles):

well know for limits we don't consider what happens at x=-6 we consider what happens around

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It was for sure does not exist. Thank you so much. That was a strange problem, thank you very much for your help.

OpenStudy (freckles):

if x<-6 then we are consider the left limit if x>-6 then we are consider the right limit

OpenStudy (freckles):

since the left and right limit do not equal the actual limit does not exist

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and from the left side =-1, and right =1.

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow -6^-}\frac{|x+6|}{x+6}=\lim_{x \rightarrow -6^-}\frac{-(x+6)}{x+6} =-1 \\ \lim_{x \rightarrow -6^+} \frac{|x+6|}{x+6}=\lim_{x \rightarrow 6^+}\frac{x+6}{x+6}=1\]

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yup (not like I am verifying it for you, just agreeing)

OpenStudy (freckles):

Ok I was just trying to explain because there looked like there was some confusion on how to evaluate the above limit

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