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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find the limit of the function algebraically. limit as x approaches zero of quantity negative six plus x divided by x to the fourth power.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im here

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry let me make it simpler limit as x approaches zero of (-6+ x)/x^4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think the limit does not exist @geerky42

geerky42 (geerky42):

Well, it does approaches to \(-\infty\), I just can't see how to solve it algebraically.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how would you solve it then @geerky42

OpenStudy (anonymous):

my options are 6 0 -6 does not exist

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know to solve algebraically you can solve by replacing x with 0 but that would give you 0 in the denominator so it cant be -6

geerky42 (geerky42):

Sorry, I'm struggling with it. But if we graph it, we can see that "Does not exist" would be best option. @amistre64 @dan815 probably can explain how to solve it algebraically.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay well thank you @geerky42 :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

can you write the expression is math notation?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

limit as x approaches zero of (-6+ x)/x^4 didnt see that one ...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

algebra .... the limit of a function is defined only if the left and right limits exist, and are the same. trial and error means that we make x as close to zero as we want ... let x1 = .0000000001 let x2 = -.0000000001 are they almost the same? or are they light years apart?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

They are almost the same

OpenStudy (amistre64):

but how the same are they? -6348398458973852375723067302974650723 is pretty big, and its only getting bigger

OpenStudy (anonymous):

where did you get that number from?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i did exactly like a suggested you do ... http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28x-6%29%2Fx%5E4%2C+x%3D-.0000000001

OpenStudy (amistre64):

-6 * 10^(40) is a pretty big number

OpenStudy (amistre64):

and its not 6, -6 or 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhhh okay I see.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So the limit does not exist?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

in your course, they define it as not existing, in other courses they define it as negative infinity we have to choose an option, sooo ..... dne is it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so it would exist if the left and right limit equal each other?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

.. if the left and right limit are the same finite number, in your case

OpenStudy (amistre64):

infinity is by default, not finite

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay thank you @amistre64 :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you mind helping me with another problem?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i spose one more is fine, depend son how long my sanity hold out :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Haha i'll make it quick Use graphs and tables to find the limit and identify any vertical asymptotes of limit of 1/(x-7)^2 as x approaches 7.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

do you know what a removable discontinuity is?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I forgot

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its common factors top to bottom, common factors limit to 1 so they can be removed what left over defines bad xs. does the setup simplify any?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

this of course isnt graphing or tabling ... those are busy work that just take up way to much time and effort

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do I have to do (x-7)(x-7)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry im still confused 0o0

OpenStudy (amistre64):

x-7 = 0 regardless of if you split it into to parts the top has no x-7 factor so we cant remove anything (x-7)^2 is a number that is 0 or more regardless of x so that tells us that regardless of the direction we are heading, we are moving in a positive direction.along a vertical boundary that cannot be crossed.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

oh, x-7 is bad when x-7=0, why?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ummm is that because x=7

OpenStudy (amistre64):

x=7 makes a bad math ... 1/0 is not good to get

OpenStudy (amistre64):

spose we had: 3(x-7) --------- (x-7)(x-3) the limit as x to 7, well ... we can remove some parts and simplify 3/(x-3) , when x=7 is the limit since there are no bad maths left to cause issues

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so x=7 is the vertical asymptote?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yep, its something that cannot be ignored/removed. we cant just step over it and keep on moving, (we can ignore removable stuff cant we?)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

removable stuff is like a crack in the sidewalk, we can step over it and carry on a vertical asymptote is a brick wall, its cant be removed and it blocks our path. we have to find a way around it, we move up or down it in a vain attempt to get past it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ohhh wow that's a really helpful comparison

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you soooooo much @amistre64!

OpenStudy (amistre64):

your welcome, ill leave the tabling and graphing to you :)

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