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OpenStudy (anonymous):

A motor scooter purchased for $1,000 depreciates at an annual rate of 15%. Write an exponential function, and graph the function. Use the graph to predict when the value will fall below $100. (images attached)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Tommynaut

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

So have you tried forming some sort of equation?

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

And those all looks like the same image...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I tried but I kept getting absurd answers. and the graphs are.... oh the other parts didn't copy, one second

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

I don't think you really need to post any more images. Let's just start with our initial value: we have 1000. So our value/amount = 1000, or A = 1000. However, after each year, our value goes down by 15% of what it was before. The compound interest equation is something like A = P(1+r)^n where A is the amount of money, P is the starting amount (let that be 1000 here), r is the rate, and n is the time period (years... we don't know how many though). So, our equation would be A = 1000(1+r)^n and all we need to finish it off is knowing what r is. Can you give me a guess?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1) v(t)=0.85(1000),the value will fall below $100 in about 14.2 years. 2 )v(t)=0.85(1000), the value will fall below $100 in about 18 years. 3)v(t) =1000(0.85),the value will fall below $100 in about 18 years. 4)v(t)= 1000(0.85), the value will fall below $100 in about14.2 years

OpenStudy (anonymous):

those were above the graphs

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

Oh right. Well, technically 1 and 4 are the same answer, as are 2 and 3, they're just written in different ways.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

weird. oh and they also have ^t after the parentheses

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

Yeah, which makes sense... and means that 2 and 3 are not the same answer, and 1 and 4 are also not the same answer haha... that changes things. So can you give me a guess what you thing the rate answer is? Explain your thinking.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

honestly I have no clue

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

Well, I was saying before that the equation would generally be A = P(1+r)^n, where A is amount, P is principle (or initial) amount, r is the rate and n is the number of years. If we adapt that to our current scenario, it would be v(t) = P(1+r)^t P is 1000, right? It's what we start with. If the rate is a depreciation of 15%, well we know that 15% = 0.15, but it's a depreciation, so it's -0.15, so 1-0.15 = what? 0.85, right? So we have v(t) = 1000(0.85)^t Now, looking at the graph, at that time (t) can you see the graph drop below 100? That would give you the t value for v(t) = 100. Trying plugging that t value back into your v(t) equation (use a calculator) to see if the answer is 100 (it probably won't be 100 but very close to it)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

woah

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

Was some part of that a bit too confusing?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sort of was that the answer?

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

Well, from what I showed you, it's either 3 or 4, but it's up to you to work it out from the graph

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you figure things out so fast I have been stuck on these all dang day

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

It might help if you went over your class notes to find the formulas :) what did you get as your final answer to this question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im not sure the graphs look the same to mee xD

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

Yes, they are the same, that's the point. In one of the graphs (it doesn't matter which), for which value of (yr) is is $ = 100?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it doesn't matter which one I chose?

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

Yep, it's the same graph

OpenStudy (anonymous):

teachers always trying to confuse me

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

So, what did you get?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I chose 3

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

Why? Did you try putting t = 18 into the equation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no? was I supposed too xD

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

It would have helped (and I did suggest it before...) If you look on the graph, at about x = 14 your value is = 100, which is what you want. That's why the answer is 4, but you can check by putting 14.2 into the equation and seeing if you end up with a value close to 100.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhh I gottcha. that makes sense

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

Awesome

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you for all your help

OpenStudy (tommynaut):

No worries :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you think you will be on later?

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