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OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

help

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@freckles

OpenStudy (perl):

you want to find P ( X >= 4)

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

how can I do that

OpenStudy (perl):

P( X>=4) = P( X = 4) + P( X = 5) + P( X= 6) + P( X = 7 ) + P( X = 8)

OpenStudy (perl):

you can approach this as a binomial distribution problem

OpenStudy (perl):

it would be easier to use the complement, since there are less terms to add. P( X >= 4) = 1 - P( X <= 3)

OpenStudy (perl):

does your teacher allow you to use a calculator?

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

yes

OpenStudy (perl):

the calculator has a built in function which allows you to find the cumulative binomial probability

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

is it the x! ? because I believe he showed us something with that function

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

huh?

OpenStudy (perl):

What kind of calculator do you have?

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

scientific

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

do you have a TI calculator (like a TI83, 84)?

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

TI-30XA

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok I'm not really familiar with that calculator. Does it have a stats menu or anything?

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

no idea :/

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it doesn't look it

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

are you allowed to use online calculators?

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

not for the final, but I can now since it's just review

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so it's probably best to practice with the calculator you have in your hands

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

i'm still not really sure how to do the problem though

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

as perl is saying, you need to calculate the following probabilities P(X = 0) P(X = 1) P(X = 2) P(X = 3) to calculate the probability P(X = k) we use this formula (n C k)*(p)^k*(1-p)^(n-k) the n C k refers to the combination formula shown below \[\Large _n C _k = \frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!}\] so this is where the factorial will factor in

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

how do I know what n and k are?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so to calculate P(X = 0), the value of k will be zero n = 8 always since there are 8 questions p = 1/5 = 0.2 because there is 1 in 5 chance of getting it right

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

for P(X = 1) through P(X = 3) the value of n and p will remain the same. Only k will change

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

for p(x=0) I got 1

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what is (n C k) equal to when n = 8 and k = 0?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh I'm just realizing there's a "nCr" label above the "8" key see this page https://epsstore.ti.com/OA_HTML/csksxvm.jsp?nSetId=74599

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

yes i see it

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so you can type 8, 2ND, 8, 0, enter and out will come "1". That is not the value of P(X = 0). That's just part of it

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

so i've got 1, 8,28,56

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

oh :/

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

remember: all probabilities are between 0 and 1 (inclusive)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you have to use this formula (n C k)*(p)^k*(1-p)^(n-k)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the n C k part is simply a number found after using the n C r function

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

n = 8 p = 0.2 k = varies from 0 to 3

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

oh lord

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

now I'm lost

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I'm going to calculate P(X = 0) before you found that n C k = 1 when n = 8 and k = 0 so (n C k)*(p)^k*(1-p)^(n-k) (8 C 0)*(0.2)^0*(1-0.2)^(8 - 0) (1)*(0.2)^0*(1-0.2)^(8 - 0) (1)*(0.2)^0*(0.8)^(8) (1)*1*0.16777216 0.16777216

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

P(X = 0) = 0.16777216

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

keep n and p the same (n = 8, p = 0.2) and plug in k = 1 this time use the same formula (n C k)*(p)^k*(1-p)^(n-k) and tell me what P(X = 1) is equal to

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

I really have no idea, I'm sorry, thank you for trying though :/

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you're seeing how n C k = 1 when n = 8 and k = 0 right?

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

yes, you just plug them into the equation

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

or you can use the nCr button on your calculator

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

yep

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so we replace the n C k portion with just '1' \[\Large \left(_n C _k\right)*(p)^k*(1-p)^{n-k}\] \[\Large \left({\color{red}{_n C _k}}\right)*(p)^k*(1-p)^{n-k}\] \[\Large \left({\color{red}{_8 C _0}}\right)*(0.2)^0*(1-0.2)^{8-0}\] \[\Large \left({\color{red}{1}}\right)*(0.2)^0*(1-0.2)^{8-0}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

after this point, you just need to compute \[\Large \left(1\right)*(0.2)^0*(1-0.2)^{8-0}\] with a calculator to find the value of P(X = 0)

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

how do you know what p is?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

p = 1/5 = 0.2 since the probability of success (ie getting the right answer) is 1/5 1 right answer 5 total choices

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

oh ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so do you see how to compute the probability for P(X = 0) ?

OpenStudy (heyitslizzy13):

I do

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