how to solve: 3log8+9log2. the 3 and 9 are the base numbers and these must be the same in order to add logarithms
\[\log_38+\log_92\]
ow okay, so now both bases are 10
use the change of base formula on both terms \[\log_b(a) = \frac{\log_{10}(a)}{\log_{10}(b)}\]
So the answer is log531441 (3^8 x 9^2)
what ? that dosen't look right, the answer is nice and simple
\[\log_38+\log_92=\frac{\log8}{\log3}+\frac{\log2}{\log9}\]
now add the fractions, as you would if they were natural numbers rather than logs: \[\frac ab+\frac cd = \frac{ad+bc}{bd}\] ...
so \[\frac{ (\log8xlog9)+ \log3 x \log9 }{ \log3 x \log9 }\]
So the answer must be log72, since you can take away log3 x log9
yes good work, now lets simplify some of those individual log terms with: \[\log (a^n)=n\log(a)\]
wahat what did you just say?
take away?
wait i think i see a mistake
the is a log3 x log 9 at the top and the bottom, because of that you can leave them away
\[\log_38+\log_92=\frac{\log8}{\log3}+\frac{\log2}{\log9}\\ =\frac{ \log8\cdot\log9+ \log3 \cdot \log2 }{ \log3 x \log9 }\]
ow it must be ac+bc/bd
\[\frac AB+\frac CD = \frac{AD}{BD}+\frac{BC}{BD}=\frac{AD+BC}{BD}\]
okay, now I get that. But how can it be simplified?
can you express 8 like a^n
Can't you leave the log9 and log 3 away both at the top and bottom so you are left with log8 . log2 ?
8 is 2^3
so log 8 = log 2^3 = 3 x log2 what about log 9 = ?
2. log 3
We have: \[\log_38+\log_92=\frac{\log8}{\log3}+\frac{\log2}{\log9}\\ =\frac{ \log8\cdot\log9+ \log3 \cdot \log2 }{ \log3 \cdot \log9}\\ =\frac{ (3\times \log2)\cdot(2\times\log3)+ \log3 \cdot \log2 }{ \log3 \cdot( 2\times\log3)}\]
yes, that's clear
now simplify the numerator
\[\frac{ (4 \times \log2)+(3\times \log3 }{\log3 . (2\times \log 3) }\]
and now you have log2^4+log3^3 at the numerator
um, not really \[(3\times\log2)\cdot(2\times\log3)=(3\times2)\times \log2\cdot\log3\] so the numerator is \[(3\times2)\times\log2\cdot\log3+\log3\cdot\log2\\ =(3\times2+1)\log_2\log_3\]
Oh okay I get it now
typo last line should be^*\[=(3\times2+1)\log(2)\log(3)\]
So (6 x )log2 x log 3
sorry 7
yesh, numerator is 7 log(2) log(3)
now lets simplify the denominator \[\log3\cdot(2\times\log3)\] use \(\log_b^2(a)\), etc for \(\log_b(a)\times\log_b(a)\)
log3 . (log3^2) ?
we want to keep the 2 out the front
owh so 2 x (log9) ?
No that's wrong
log 3 + log 3 is log 9 log 3 x log 3 is not log 9 log 3 x log 3 is log^2 3
so what does our fraction look like now?
\[\frac{ 7 \times (2 \times \log3) }{ 2 \times \log 8 }\]
try again
\[\frac{ 7 \times (\log2 \times \log3) }{ 2 \times \log3 + \log2^3 }\]
\[\frac{7\log(2)\log(3)}{2\log^2(3)}=\frac{7\log(2)\log(3)}{2\log(3)\log(3)}\]
ow because you have log x log= log^2
don't mix up \[\log(a)+\log(a)=\log(a^2)\]with \[\log(a)\times\log(a)=\log^2(a)\]
okay didn't know that's possible with log. Clear now
now we can cancel the common term in the fraction...
so: \[\frac{ 7 \times \log2 }{ 2 \times \log3 }\]
canceled log 3 at the top and bottom
yes,
now you could leave it like that, with logs to base 10, or use the change of base formula in reverse ... \[\frac{\log(a)}{\log(b)}=\log_b(a)\]
how you change the base formula in reserve since you're left with the 7 and 2 ?
take the 7/2 out the front, use the change of base only on log(2) / log(3)
okay so 7/2 ( 2log3)
\[\frac72\log_3(2)\] ie (7/2) log_3 (2)
okay thanks alot :)
logs are tricky
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