The height of a rock at time t which is thrown vertically on the height 46 feet is given by the formula s(t) = −t 2 + 20t+ 44. What is the maximum height of the rock? When does it hit the ground? What is the impact speed?
yes it is
im just stuck on when the rock his the ground and the impact i figured out the height
@jfernandes Testing...
Not sure I'm wondering if we can just take the derivative of S(t) and set it equal to zero. \[\frac{ dS }{ dt } = -2t+20 \] \[\frac{ dS }{ dt }_{0} \] \[-2t+20 = 0 \] \[\frac{ -20 }{ -2 } = 10 = t \] I feel that when the velocity is zero the will reach it's maximum height. so we plug this back into the original equation. \[s(2) = -(2)^{2}+20(2)+44 = 80ft\] When the rock hit's the ground the position will be zero so \[s(t) = -t ^{2}+20t+44 = 0 \] i'm thinking we can apply this formula \[-b \pm (b ^{2}-4ac)^{.5}/2a\]
so far the maximum height is 144 and i checked to see if it was right and it was
oh wait.. i plugged in the wrong number
so i the derivative at 0 t = 10 then i plugged it back in and got -(10)^2 + 20(10) + 44 = 144 which is the max height
so now im wondering how to i find te value of t when the rock hits the ground
\[-(10)^{2} + 20(10)+44\] -100+200 = 100+44 = 144 @reeses Yeah I plugged in 2 instead of 10
when the rock hits the ground @reeses the height will be zero, vertical height
the acceleration is constant, the flight is symmetrical, so time to max height, is same as time down
-b +/- (b^2-4ac)^0.5/2a ((20)^2-4(-1)(44))^0.5 -20-19.6 = -40/2(-1) = 20 seconds
is that 46 the initial height, i didnt see that?
i'm thinking that to find the velocity we would plug t back into the equation for velocity. dS/dt = -2t+20 t = 20 -2(20)+20 = -20 m/s i'm guessing the negative sign means it's downward @DanJS I did not see that, oh... yeah .. the initial height was 46ft but @reeses said the answer for height was correct I'm guessing?
sweet! i got it now so it was -(t-22)(t+2)=0 t = 22 t = -2 which -2 isnt right so t = 22 is right and its the right answer
now how about the impact
Yeah, in the prob, the position function at time 0 is s(t) = 44, but it says starts at 46,
i know its throwing me off
@reeses if you found the time at impact , I think you can plug it back into the equation, the derivative dS/dt which gives velocity
yes that is for when it hits the ground, it has to fall that extra 44 ft on the way down, with a initial velocity the same as the initial velocity it was thrown upwards
well the time of impact to the ground is 22
yeah so 10 to top , 10 back to the h=44, and must be 2 more sec down
if you use the initial velocity and the accel and height, should get that time
how would you set it up?
so i looked up the answer and its 4 feet/sec i have no idea how thats the answer
s(t) = -t^2 + 20t + 44 [ft] v(t) = -2t + 20 [ft/s] a(t) = -2 [ft/s^2] --------------------------------
The initial height s(0) = 44 ft, thrown up with an initial velocity of v(0) = 20 ft/s undergoes a constant acceleration of -2 ft/s^2
kimematic equation to get time from 20 ft/s to 0 ft/s with constant accel of -2 is 10 seconds
but how did the text get 4 feet/sec
s(10) = max height time to fall from that max height to h=0 must be 22 s
sorry 12s
could it be a typo?
the ground inpact speed will be greater (neg direction) than the initial velocity because it is accelerating downwards longer than deceleration to zero speed,
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