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OpenStudy (matlee):

Need help with precalcuclus will give owl bucks!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

whats the question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok what do u need help with

OpenStudy (matlee):

I will post 1 by 1. Ill show .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok sounds good

OpenStudy (matlee):

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OpenStudy (matlee):

both of u can help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But, actually if you can can you please post it in another question not the same tab

OpenStudy (matlee):

Y

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so that way when you give you medals we get the full credit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its only fair

OpenStudy (matlee):

Ok lets do this question first

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (matlee):

Im giving owl bucks not really medals

OpenStudy (matlee):

Thanks tho

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so first a triangle equals 180 all together when added up

OpenStudy (matlee):

Yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And im pretty sure c is a right angle

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so that equals 90

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

You can use the law of cosines here. You can't make any assumption about the angles not labeled as having a specific value.

OpenStudy (matlee):

everything is not drawn to scale we can propose

OpenStudy (matlee):

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rishavraj (rishavraj):

u remember \[\cos A = \frac{ b^2 + c^2 - a^2 }{ 2bc }\] ???????the cosine rule

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ohh ok so its not drawn accurately?

OpenStudy (matlee):

I honestly dont know anything but the wordp re caluclus in pre caluclus lol. I would love to have teacher explanation or any explanation is fine

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

@sydneymmelin yes, you can't conclude that it is a right angle just because it looks sort of like it might a right angle. If it isn't labeled as such, either 90 degrees or with little square, you have to assume that it is not.

OpenStudy (matlee):

but yes i guess since we are looking for side A it would be

OpenStudy (matlee):

wait would we just use pythroean therom?

rishavraj (rishavraj):

nah u cant use pythagorean theorem ..its not a right triangle

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

No, Pythagorean Theorem only works on right triangles, and this is not a right triangle.

OpenStudy (matlee):

Oh i see, thanks

OpenStudy (matlee):

So how should i go about this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But, don''t we have to find the other angles

rishavraj (rishavraj):

@sydneymmelin we simply need to apply the cosine rule

OpenStudy (matlee):

I think we do. But we can say angle C is 90 cus it can be any number within 1-158

OpenStudy (matlee):

Ok cosine rules

OpenStudy (matlee):

What is the cosine rule and how should i know when to use it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well really you cant just assume the angles cause it would be inaccurate

OpenStudy (matlee):

sorry i meant cant*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh lol right

rishavraj (rishavraj):

To solve a triangle is to find the lengths of each of its sides and all its angles. The sine rule is used when we are given either a) two angles and one side, or b) two sides and a non-included angle. The cosine rule is used when we are given either a) three sides or b) two sides and the included angle.

rishavraj (rishavraj):

@matlee

OpenStudy (matlee):

Oh thats great lol

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

We need to find the length of side \(a\). We have angle \(A\), and sides \(b\) and \(c\). \[\cos A = \frac{-a^2+b^2+c^2}{2bc}\]

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

We need to rearrange that to get \(a\) alone on one side. Can you do that algebra?

OpenStudy (matlee):

Kind of

OpenStudy (matlee):

Ok i see why is cos cus the two side adjacnet and hypotenus

rishavraj (rishavraj):

@matlee why are u considering it to be hypotenuse.....Its NOT a right triangle

OpenStudy (matlee):

oh i thought the largest one was the hypotenus

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

In a right triangle, the long side is the hypotenuse, but a non-right triangle does not have a hypotenuse.

OpenStudy (matlee):

cosA(2bc)-b2 - c2 = -a2 i dont know how to get a alone after that

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

how about you multiply both sides by -1, and then take the square root?

rishavraj (rishavraj):

u got the value of b,c and A use calculator to get the value of cosA

OpenStudy (matlee):

(square root(-1(cosA(2bc)-b2 - c2) = (square root ) a)

OpenStudy (matlee):

cos of 22 i do?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

\[\cos A = \frac{-a^2+b^2+c^2}{2bc}\]\[2 b c \cos A = -a^2+b^2+c^2\] \[2bc \cos A - b^2-c^2 = -a^2\] \[-2bc\cos A + b^2 + c^2 = a^2\]\[a = \sqrt{b^2+c^2-2bc\cos A}\] Take the positive square root.

OpenStudy (matlee):

Thank you how do you d it so fast lol that takes me for ever

OpenStudy (matlee):

Ok so now we have that

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

\[\cos(22^\circ) \approx 0.927184\]

OpenStudy (matlee):

Ok

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

\[a\approx \sqrt{(17)^2 + (36)^2 -2(17)(36)(0.927184)} = 21.2\]

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