Need help with precaluclus will give owlbuck
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this one is probably my hardest looking one , well for me
@inkyvoyd please help us. :P
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double angle formula co(2x) = 2cosx^2-1 use that and then you will get quadratic equation
Ehm. wait which one is that cos the first one
I am wondering the same
|dw:1450416242839:dw| cos(2x) =1-2sin^2x `or` 2cos^2-1 and look at the 2nd term which is cos x so you should use 2nd one
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man im sorry lol, I failed in helping.
thats ok lol, u helped me not to bad in the last one
the 2nd term is cos(x) so it would be great if you use 2cos^2-1 there are different ways to prove/verify the identity we should figure out which one is best for each question
im just trying to learn now lol
oh ok that makes sense. Can i use that for the first term too, 2cos^2-1 for cos2x
Nnesha has helped by providing a review of the identity co(2x) = 2cosx^2-1 . Substitute co(2x) = 2cosx^2-1 for cos 2x in the original equation, and then write out the whole thing.
wait what is co
In other words, write out cos 2x + cos x = 0, making that substitution discussed above.
is it short for cos?
Yes, sorry. cos, not co. ;(
oh ok np
1-sin^2x +2xcos^2-1+
As you yourself have typed in, 2cos^2-1 can be substituted for cos2x. Why bring in the sine function? Our goal (not stated) was to eliminate all of the trig functions except for cos x.
o sorry i thought it was cos2x and second one was for cosx
2cos^2-1 for cos2x results in 2cos^2-1 + cos x = 0, right?
right
yes
Now we have only one trig function, cos x. This equation just happens to be a quadratic equation as well as a trig equation. Rearrange the terms in DESCENDING order of powers of cos x.
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nvm i think i got this. so cosx goes first?
yea I think so
is it mathmale?
That's not the whole story. You have no trig function here except for the cosine. What is the highest power of the cosine function you see?
^2-1
2cos^2-1 + cos x = 0 You need to look at 2cos^2 alone. This is "twice the square of the cosine function."
^2
So, your equation begins with \[2\cos^2 x\]
this is what I meant when I asked you for the term representing the highest power of x.
Now, what is the next highest power of x?
oooo, ok
cos x
Yea!
wel and the -1
and what's the coefficient of that power of cos x?
-1
is it -1?
So then you end up with \[2\cos^2 x - 1\cos x\]
awesome
oh I see
how do you complete this equation? Which term in the original equation have we not yet used? Find it and then complete the whole equation ...... = 0.
[0,2pi)
pie
yea
wait what do those brackets and parenthesis mean
i forgot
2cos^2-1 + cos x = 0 becomes what? Mark: please hold the pie and all jokes and comments for now, OK?
lol
I wasn't joking lol, I am actually trying to learn, good job with the teaching I love it.
yes i dont think he was joking
no, I was trying to be serious here.
but honestly i dont know it becomes 2pi?
2cos^2-1 + cos x = 0 needs to be rearranged in descending powers of cos x. Mark: You're welcome to observe. Unless matlee has a question or comment for you, please remain in the background.
2cos^2-1 + cos x = 0 needs to be re-written, as explained earlier. pi, 2pi have nothing to do with this operation.
square root?
lol cmon mathmale don't be so harsh with me, because I tend to understand when I communticate. If you want me to leave then I will, but I am wanting to be part of this.
holy crap i subtract it
Wait. Stop. First, before you do anything more, tell me what you think our objective is.
lol my brothers computer so slow
Ok uhm, to make an exact value
Ok, I guess I will just leave, but matlee good luck. I believe you can do this.
No. Our objective is to write this equation by descending powers of cos x. Here's an example of descending order: 10 8 7 6 3 2 1
Thank you i will see you soon
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Ohhhhh
Rewrite in descending order by powers of cos x;
-1cosx + 2cos^2= 0 i was like whatt
You've written this with ASCENDING powers of cos x. What we need is \[2\cos^2 x + \cos x -1 = 0\]
.. . which has its powers of cos x DESCENDING.
What would be our next goal? If necessary, go back and read the problem statement / instructions.
wait what where did u get that extra x
The goal of this problem is to ...... " Please finish this sentence.
to find all solutions in t he interval [0,2pi)
Honestly, there is NO extra x. Which occurence of x are you rreferring to?
2cosx i thought it transtalted to 2cos^2
No, it doesn't. First term is 2 cos^2 x. "Two times the square of cos x."
Second term is +cos x. Third term is -1.
ok
Be careful about assumptions. Don't automatically assume something if you're not sure; check it out!
\[2\cos^2x + \cos x - 1 = 0\]
is the equation we have to solve FIRST for cos x and SECOND for x.
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