Can someone help me with this please? I don't want the answers, I want someone to help me understand how to solve the question. A function is shown below: f(x) = x3 + 2x2 - x - 2 Part A: What are the factors of f(x)? Show your work. Part B: What are the zeros of f(x)? Show your work. Part C: What are the steps you would follow to graph f(x)? Describe the end behavior of the graph of f(x). Thanks!
@zepdrix @mathmale @mathstudent55 @triciaal @ganeshie8 @Directrix
Figure out part A? :) Looks like grouping again.
Yeah, I was thinking of doing that later. I thot I took it out of the question... Eh I'll just do it here
Well you need part A for the rest of the problem XD so make sure you can do that
Alright
f(x) = (x3 + 2x2 - x - 2) First group: f(x) = (x3 + 2x2) - (x - 2) Find GCF First Binomial x2 Second Binomial -1 Factor out: f(x) = x2(x + 2) -1(x + 2) (x2 - 1)(x + 2) Is this correct @zepdrix I think I might have done something wrong...
Looks good so far :) We can go a little bit further. Here is something to think about:
wait wait wait wait
No wait >:U\[\large\rm x^2-1\quad=\quad x^2-1^2\]
See your next step? :)
but theres something incorrect f(x) = x2(x + 2) -1(x + 2) Factoring out -1 would give f(x) = x2(x + 2) -1(-x + 2) Not f(x) = x2(x + 2) -1(x + 2)
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oh i missed that boo boo. You should've grouped like this:
\[\large\rm (x^3+2x^2)+(-x-2)\]You have to input a plus sign to put the brackets the way you would like. You can't just drop brackets like this:\[\large\rm (x^3+2x^2)-(x-2)\]I don't think that's what you did, just a note.
\[\large\rm x^3+2x^2-x-2\]\[\large\rm (x^3+2x^2)+(-x-2)\]\[\large\rm x^2(x+2)-1(x+2)\]\[\large\rm (x^2-1)(x+2)\]These are the correct steps. Confused by any of this?
@zepdrix Alright, I get it so far. It makes sense.
So for A, the factors are (x2−1)(x+2) correct @zepdrix ???
No, we would like `linear factors`, so we factor further.
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\[\large\rm x^2-1\quad=\quad x^2-1^2\]Remember your `difference of squares` formula?
\[\large\rm a^2-b^2=(a-b)(a+b)\]
so how would i use that in this???
btw thx zep, ur awesome. :)
@zepdrix hmmm...x^2−1=x2−1^2. I don't really get how you suddenly got 1^2 oh 1 * 1 is still 1 nvm. Alright that makes sesnse so far. Equation is a2−b2=(a−b)(a+b) Im gonna go on a limb here and say a2 is x2 and b2 is 1^2. So x^2 - 1^2 = (x - 1)(x + 1) Therefore, the fully factored form would be (x - 1)(x + 1) Correct @zepdrix ?
@zepdrix So the factors of f(x) would be (x - 1)(x + 1), correct?
Good good good. That gives us our fully factored expression for part A: (x-1)(x+1)(x+2)
Alright, the fully factored form is (x-1)(x+1)(x+2) for Part A?
\[\large\rm (x^2-1)(x+2)\]\[\large\rm (x-1)(x+1)(x+2)\]Yes.
got it, thanks!
Alright, so to calculate the x intercepts you have to make the equation equal to 0, so i think to calculate the 0's you have to make x = 0 first, and then y = 0? Or is that not true...
\[\large\rm y=(x-1)(x+1)(x+2)\]Looking for zeros, or x-intercepts,\[\large\rm 0=(x-1)(x+1)(x+2)\]Applying your `Zero-Factor Property`:\[\large\rm 0=(x-1),\qquad\qquad\qquad 0=(x+1),\qquad\qquad\qquad 0=(x+2)\]And solve for x in each case.
Setting x=0 is a separate issue. That gives us the `y-intercept`. it doesn't appear that they want information though, so we don't need to do that.
Alright, so the 0s are just the x intercepts, correct @zepdrix ?
Yes, these words mean all the same thing: Zeros, x-intercepts, solutions. They'll use those three different words a lot, so get comfortable with the fact that they mean the same thing.
\[0=(x−1) 0=(x+1) 0=(x+2)\] Alright In the first equation x = 1 Second equation x = -1 Third equation x = -2
Good :) You've got your zeroes.
HOORAY! On to part C
Part C: What are the steps you would follow to graph f(x)? Describe the end behavior of the graph of f(x).
To graph it? You would label your x-intercepts to start.
f(x) = x3 + 2x2 - x - 2 Right right, that is a good start lol
Wait, this has 3 intercepts, does that mean 2 vertexes?
Yes, and without the use of calculus, we can't graph those very easily. So I don't think they want you to worry about that too much.
Hold on for a minute please
\(\large\rm f(x) = x^3 + 2x^2 - x - 2\) If you let x=0, you have: \(\large\rm f(x) = 0 + 0 - 0 - 2\) So you can also graph your y-intercept if you like. y=-2
@zepdrix Alright I'm back. I'm fairly sure I somehow found the vertex in my other question tho
Forgot how...
@zepdrix Dont I need to plot all the intercepts to be able to graph f(x)? Cause then I can just draw a line in between, right?
No, not in this type of problem you didn't. The vertices aren't even rational numbers for this one. :) Really weird decimal values.
Yes, you can connect things somewhat effectively after you do that.
But you also need to know the `end behavior` of the function.
but how would i graph without the vertexes?
You would just sort of... "guess" how high the vertices go. You wouldn't be able to do the same thing you did with a parabola, vertex form is nice and easy with a parabola :)) not with this bad boy.
Sec, lemme get some graph paper for us.
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@zepdrix Sorry, bathroom break. Alright I see the 0
@zepdrix Did you get banned?
Lol, what? Why would I ever get banned? XD
I don't know, conversing with an OS fugitive whose account has been banned?
lol
Alright, I still don't understand how you would be able to graph this without knowing the vertexes @zepdrix .
|dw:1451167583528:dw|So if we graph the intercepts, that gives us a basic idea.
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