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OpenStudy (anonymous):

any body can explain this step? cauchy condensation test (rudins book) Question is when n <2^k then why terms are a(2^k+1) see the attachment

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is geometric series

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its basically expanding the expression

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[a _{2^{k+1}-1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is just the next term after \[a _{2^k}\]

OpenStudy (dayakar):

t1=a1 t2=a2+a3 t3= a3+a4+a5 t4=a4+a5+a6+a7 1 1 1 1 t2k

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Could you share the previous page of your attachment ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

@ziawasim

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Thank you :) First notice that the given sequence \(\{a_n\}\) is "decreasing". Next lets try and "over estimate" the sum of the terms in this series.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ayeshaafzal221 i want to know about when we are taking terms 2^k then how can we go for 2^k+1

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Group the terms in the series as below : \(a_1\) \(a_2 + a_3\) \(a_4+a_5+a_6+a_7\) \(a_8+a_9+\cdots + a_{15}\) \(a_{16}+a_{17} + \cdots + a_{31}\) \(\vdots \)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Since the sequence \(\{a_n\}\) is decreasing, would you agree that we can over estimate the sums in each of the above groups as below : \(a_1\) \(2a_2\) \(4a_4\) \(8a_8\) \(16a_{16}\) \(\vdots\) ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

In other words, we have : \(a_1\ge a_1\) \(2a_2\ge a_2 + a_3\) \(4a_4\ge a_4+a_5+a_6+a_7\) \(8a_8\ge a_8+a_9+\cdots + a_{15}\) \(16a_{16}\ge a_{16}+a_{17} + \cdots + a_{31}\) \(\vdots \)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Let me know once you digest above. Rest of the proof is trivial..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes both are same nature sequences but i m want to know when n<2^k but but our terms are 2^k+1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let suppose k=4 then n will be less then \[n<2^k\]\[n<2^4\] <16 but we are taking terms 2^k+1 means \[2^5=32\] my question not about the grouping , my question numbers of term of the sequence \[S_n= a_1+a_2+......+a_n<a_1+a_2+......+a_2^k\] but here \[S_n a_1+a_2+......+a _{2^k})+...... +a _{2^k+1})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how S_n is equal to the terms a_{2^k+1}

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

I think I have got what you're asking... yeah the explanation in your notes is a bit confusing... let me read it again and see..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

your issue is with the number of terms in the last group right ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes this is my issue

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Do below steps look fine to you ? suppose \(n\lt 2^k\) : \[S_n= a_1+a_2+a_3+a_4+\cdots +a_n\\~\\ =(a_1)+(a_2+a_3)+(a_4+\cdots + a_7) + \cdots + (a_{2^{k-1}} +\cdots + a_{2^k-1})\\~\\ \le a_1+2a_2+4a_4+\cdots + 2^{k-1}a_{2^{k-1}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

suppose \(n\lt 2^k\) : \[S_n= a_1+a_2+a_3+a_4+\cdots +a_n\\~\\ =(a_1)+(a_2+a_3)+(a_4+\cdots + a_7) + \cdots + (a_{2^{k-1}} +\cdots + a_{2^k-1})\\~\\ \le a_1+2a_2+4a_4+\cdots + 2^{k-1}a_{2^{k-1}}\\~\\ \le a_1+2a_2+4a_4+\cdots + 2^{k-1}a_{2^{k-1}}\color{red}{+2^ka_{2^k}}\\~\\ \]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

that last line above still troubles you is it ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

The key idea here is that all the terms of given sequence are "positive"; therefore adding more terms only results in a greater sum.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

*nonnegative

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

For example, If your height is less than 6 feet, then your height is also less than (6 + 1) feet

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just this was the idea behind it oohhh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes :) yw !

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