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OpenStudy (dtan5457):

another log question

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

\[\log_{y}x+\log_{x}y=\frac{ 10 }{ 3 } \] xy=144 compute (x+y)/2

hartnn (hartnn):

what have you tried?

hartnn (hartnn):

if you take \(\log_xy =a\) you'll get a quadratic in a,

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

oh

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

logy(x) is simply the inverse right?

hartnn (hartnn):

log_x y = 1/ log_y x

hartnn (hartnn):

"reciprocal", not inverse :)

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

so now that i have a+(1/a)=10/3 i can multiply by a?

hartnn (hartnn):

yep. solve that quadratic.

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

after i solve the quadratic, i would that the answers back to log(y)x?

hartnn (hartnn):

so, you'll have \(\log_x y = \dfrac{\log y}{\log x}\) and since xy = 144 \(\log xy = 144 \\ \log x + \log y = 144\) we have log y/log x, log x +log y 2 equations, 2 unknowns!

hartnn (hartnn):

**** \(\log x +\log y = \log 144\)

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

the quadratic i got 3 and 1/3

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

so your 2 equations will solve for x and y?

hartnn (hartnn):

for log x and log y and hence yes, for x and y

hartnn (hartnn):

log y = 3 log x log x + log y = log 144 log x + 3log x = 144 4 log x = log 144 log x = ... x = ...

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

where did the 3logx come from

hartnn (hartnn):

"log y = 3 log x"

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

how did you come to that statement?

hartnn (hartnn):

\(\log_xy =3 \\ \dfrac{\log y}{\log x} = 3 \\ \log y = 3 \log x\)

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

4logx=log144 is that equal to logx=log36? i probably messed up a rule here

hartnn (hartnn):

yeah.. log x = (log 144)/4 \(\Large \log 144^{\dfrac{1}{4}}\)

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

so x is -0.279?

hartnn (hartnn):

negative?

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

0.53 i forgot 1/4 isnt really the exponent

hartnn (hartnn):

we can keep it as \(\sqrt {12}\)

hartnn (hartnn):

now find log y and hence y log y = 3 log x = ...

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

3(sqrt12)

hartnn (hartnn):

log x is not sqrt 12 x is sqrt 12

hartnn (hartnn):

\(\log y =3 \log x = 3 \log (144^{0.25} ) = 3 \log \sqrt {12} = \log (\sqrt{12}^3) \\ \implies y = \sqrt{12}^3 \)

hartnn (hartnn):

see if you get that?

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

oh yeah

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

so 12(sqrt12)

hartnn (hartnn):

yes

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

final answer is 13(sqrt3)

hartnn (hartnn):

yes

OpenStudy (dtan5457):

alright thanks

hartnn (hartnn):

welcome ^_^

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