solve the following
\[e^{xy} = e^{4x} - e^{5y}\]
Take ln each term. This cancels out the e^(...)
So, taking ln of all terms leads xy=4x-5y Now solve for whatever term.
\[\frac{ d }{ dx }e^{4x} = e^{u}*du/dx = 4e^{4x}\] \[\frac{ d }{ dx }e^{5y} = 5e^{5y}*\frac{ dy }{ dx }\] \[4e^{4x}+5e^{5y}*\frac{ dy }{ dx }\]
whaa
this is implicit differentiation @sh3lsh sorry should have said so earlier
The other side \[\frac{ d }{ dx } e^{xy} = \frac{ d }{ dx }e^{x'y}+\frac{ d }{ dx }e ^{xy' }\]
\[e^{xy} + \frac{ dy }{ dx }e^{xy} = 4e^{4x} + 5e^{5y}\frac{ dy }{ dx }\]
\[e^{xy}(1 + \frac{ dy }{ dx }) = 4e^{4x} + 5e^{5y}\frac{ dy }{ dx }\]
Is there something i'm missing here?
Hi
hi :)
Is this solved?
no got stuck, don't know how to solve this. it was implicit differentiation
With respect to what variable?
\[e^{xy} = e^{4x} - e^{5y}\]
well the problem says treat y as a function of x
I'm guessing we differentiate with respect to \(x\).
Let's start with the left hand side.
yep, I tried doing that then got suck
ok
Well, let me try to make it easier then.
Let \(u=xy\), this means \(e^{xy}=e^u\). \[ \frac{d}{dx}e^u = \frac{d}{du}e^u\frac{du}{dx} \]Does this make sense?
Yes, i'm following
For the first part:\[ \frac{d}{du}e^u=e^u=e^{xy} \]For the second part:\[ \frac{du}{dx} = \frac{d}{dx}xy=\frac{dx}{dx}y+x\frac{dy}{dx}=y + x\frac{dy}{dx} \]
Before I thought it was product rule
Which part? We have to start using the chain rule.
For some reason I can't see what you just wrote let me refresh my page This was what I originally did. \[e^{xy}(1 + \frac{ dy }{ dx }) = 4e^{4x} + 5e^{5y}\frac{ dy }{ dx }\] For the other side this was what I had. \[\frac{ d }{ dx }e^{4x} = e^{u}*du/dx = 4e^{4x}\] \[\frac{ d }{ dx }e^{5y} = 5e^{5y}*\frac{ dy }{ dx }\] \[4e^{4x}+5e^{5y}*\frac{ dy }{ dx }\]
You didn't do the left side correctly
This is what I thought: I thought that \[e^{xy}\] meant that we had to do product rule
oh wait... no
hmmm....I ended up with 0
you see @wio @jdoe0001 showed me the chain rule earlier. I dont know why I was thinking product rule
\[ e^{xy} \]Is not a product, it's an exponent if anything.
hmm wait a sec... wrote it off the beaten path =)
so it's kind of the same like you said before right? \[e^{u}, du/dx \]
Yes
\[e^{xy} = e^{xy}*\frac{ du }{ dx }\] \[u = xy, = e^{xy}*y + x \frac{ dy }{ dx }\]
That is what I wrote earlier, but you need parenthesis.
for some reason I can't see it
Maybe you need to refresh the page. It shows just find for me
\[ e^{xy}(y+(\frac{ dy }{ dx })) = 4e^{4x} + 5e^{5y}\frac{ dy }{ dx }\]
I have to keep on refreshing my page
hmmm
You forgot the \(x\) before the derivative.
anyhow @greatlife44 \(\Large \cfrac{d}{dx}[e^{{\color{brown}{ f(x)}}}]\implies {\color{brown}{ f'(x)}}e^{{\color{brown}{ f(x)}}}\)
\[e^{xy}(y+x(\frac{ dy }{ dx })) = 4e^{4x} + 5e^{5y}\frac{ dy }{ dx }\]
yeap
ok so I had to do a-lot of rearranging lol
ehehh
\[\frac{ ye^{xy}-4e^{4x} }{ 5e^{5y}-xe^{xy} } = \frac{ dy }{ dx }\]
I wish there was a faster way for me to type equations on here so I could show you guys all the steps I did.
well, looks good \(\bf e^{xy} = e^{4x} - e^{5y} \\ \quad \\ \left( y+x\cfrac{dy}{dx}\right)e^{xy}=4e^{4x}-5\cfrac{dy}{dx}e^{5y} \\ \quad \\ ye^{xy}+xe^{xy}\cfrac{dy}{dx}=4e^{4x}-5\cfrac{dy}{dx}e^{5y} \\ \quad \\ \cfrac{dy}{dx}\left( xe^{xy}+5e^{5y} \right)=4e^{4x}-ye^{xy} \\ \quad \\ \cfrac{dy}{dx}=\cfrac{4e^{4x}-ye^{xy}}{xe^{xy}+5e^{5y}}\)
I got a 0 before, because I was doing some LN stuff lol
Thanks guys, it's unfortunate i can only give one medal :(
HERE IT IS \[\frac{ 4e^{4x} }{ e^{xy} } - \frac{ 5e^{5y} }{ e^{xy} }\frac{ dy }{ dx } = y +\frac{ dy }{ dx }\] \[\frac{ 4e^{4x} }{ e^{xy} } - y = \frac{ dy }{ dx }(x)+\frac{ 5e^{5y} }{ e^{xy} }\frac{ dy }{ dx }\] \[\frac{ 4e^{4x} }{ e^{xy} } - y = \frac{ dy }{ dx }((x)+\frac{ 5e^{5y} }{ e^{xy} })\] \[\frac{ \frac{ 4e^{4x} }{ e^{xy} }-y }{ \frac{ 5e^{xy} }{ e^{xy} }+x } =\frac{ dy }{ dx }\] \[\frac{ e^{xy}*\frac{ 4e^{4x} }{ e^{xy} }-y*e^{xy} }{ e^{xy}*\frac{ 5e^{xy} }{ e^{xy} }+x*e^{xy} } =\frac{ dy }{ dx }\] \[\frac{ 4*e^{4x}-y*e^{xy} }{ 5*e^{xy}+x*e^{xy} } = \frac{ dy }{ dx }\] OMG YES!
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