can someone help me with number 7 and 10. I am lost
i know Total energy of satellite in orbit = -GMm/2r but when i solve for a I get a negative answer of -15632812 J
this is 7a
Regarding #10: Since the masses assumedly are not moving, the net external force on each is zero. Of course, if you're considering gravistational forces, Your answer may be different.
thats why it was confusing to me seemed like a trick question wouldnt it just be 0 or the gravitational constant perhaps
All bodies exert gravitational forces on other bodies. There's a standard formula for this type of force. Of course the forces involved are so small that they're essentially zero, which is not to say that they ARE zero.
fnet=G (m1m2)/r
i was thinking about that but idk
Haven't worked with this in years. Check, please, whether that r should be just r, or r^2. Also, I seem to remember that both g and G appear in the numerator. Check that out. Search for "gravitational forces."
this is what i found
im lost
would it be for number 10 like 4.1E-10?
Your formula is fine. Thx for looking it up. G is just a constant. Two masses are indicated: m1 and m2. The distance between two masses in question is d, so d^2 is the square of that. Look for a value for G, the constant in your formula. Try to ask leading questions, so that you can learn from what currently makes you feel lost.
For #7 : \[PE = -\dfrac{mMG}{r}\] \[KE = \dfrac{1}{2}mv^2\]
I have a question for you, when do circular orbits occur?
I think it safe to assume that the satellites move in essentially (if not perfectly) circular orbits around the earth, at least in a problem of this particular level of difficulty.
G is 6.67E-11. I plugged it in and got 4.1E-10 for 10
circular orbits occurr when a smaller object gets caught in the gravitational pull of another far more massive object
You can figure out the orbital velocity by using the fact that the satellite is in circular orbit. Therefore there must act a centripetal force changing the direction of satellite continuously, pulling it towards the earth
Please show all your work if you'd like feedback. If you merely share your answer in isolation, then it implies that you expect your helpers to do entire problems from scratch so as to tell you whether your result is correct or not. Not realistic.
Yeah, so when the gravitational force equals the centripetal force in the simplest sense, I guess you don't really need to know this considering the difficulty of your question :d hehe, what ganeshie gave should be good!
haha astro
so for total it is pe +ke
how do i determine the velocity for ke?
Which force is acting as centripetal force here ?
gravity?
i think the velocity of the satellite is 7907
m/s
Yes, centripetal force = gravitational force \[\dfrac{mMG}{r^2} = \dfrac{mv^2}{r}\] just isolate \(v\)
doesnt velocity also equal v=sqrt((GM)/r)
which I could probably get by isolating that
v = 7907 m/s looks goo
I get a negative amount of energy when I plug in
-15632812 J
Maybe below expression for total energy of the satellite-earth system is simpler to use : \[PE+KE = -\dfrac{mMG}{r}+\dfrac{1}{2}\dfrac{mMG}{r} = -\dfrac{1}{2}\dfrac{mMG}{r} \]
I got the same answer but positive
Negative value should make sense because we are defining 0 potential energy at infinity. And the potential energy decreases as the distance between satellite and earth decreases
Oh ok
for b it would just be total energy of higher minus total energy of lower?
Yep
thanks :)
how do I go about 10
i was thinking just do Gm1m2/d^2
You need to add up the forces vectorially
maybe start by drawing a rough diagram
shoot just realized my answers are wrong for 7
i didnt factor in the height of the satellite when calculating
Happens haha! \(r = \text{distance between satellite and center of earth}\)
yeah but its frustrating haha. After i recalculate ill make the diagram
take your time
ok new answer for higher sattelite is 2382142 J
with the 0 potential energy definite at infinity, the total energy is always negative
yeah it was negative forgot to add the sign
my energy was higher at the lower orbit
it cannot be
remember -8 < -2
oh duh
a large negative value is less than a small negative value
:(
my self esteem just died lmao
ok so how do i set up the diagram for 10
lol, maybe when free graph below functions : f(x) = -mMG/r g(x) = 1/2mv^2 h(x) = -1/2mMG/r
you will see something like below : http://www.a-levelphysicstutor.com/images/fields/orb-PEKEgraph-01.jpg
Notice how kinetic energy is always positive
and how the potential energy and total energy are always negative
Also notice, all curves tend to 0 for large values of r
that makes more sense now
the negative had me confused for a bit
for #10 draw a square with four masses at four corners
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