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OpenStudy (smileyxl3):

Solve 9*3^x=5

myininaya (myininaya):

try dividing 9 on both side to isolate the 3^x part

myininaya (myininaya):

then take ln( ) of both sides

OpenStudy (photon336):

you mean this right? \[9*3^{x} = 5\]

OpenStudy (photon336):

Just treat 3^x as a variable and isolate that. So you have nine times 3. you need to do the opposite which is division. \[3^{x} = \frac{ 9 }{ 5 }\] then you have 3^x by itself. you need to apply logs to solve this. what you would do is take the log of both sides. I'll stop there.

OpenStudy (photon336):

that should be 5/9

Nnesha (nnesha):

Or you can rewrite 3 as 3^2 first if you don't like fractions.

Nnesha (nnesha):

i mean 9 as 3^2

Nnesha (nnesha):

\[\rm 9= 3 \cdot 3 =3^2\]

OpenStudy (smileyxl3):

So I have \[3^2*3^x=5\]

myininaya (myininaya):

you could use law of exponents if you go @Nnesha 's route which says x^a*x^b=x^(a+b)

myininaya (myininaya):

so 3^2 * 3^x =?

OpenStudy (smileyxl3):

Wouldn't that be 3^(2+x)=5?

myininaya (myininaya):

that's cool you still can't get past applying a log to both sides I like to use ln( )

OpenStudy (smileyxl3):

Alright, how would you do with the natural log?

OpenStudy (decentnabeel):

\[9\cdot \:3^x=5\quad :\quad x=-\frac{\ln \left(\frac{9}{5}\right)}{\ln \left(3\right)}\quad \left(\mathrm{Decimal:\quad }x=-0.53503\right)\]

myininaya (myininaya):

you do ln( ) of both sides this allows you to bring the power down @DecentNabeel It would be cool if we can lead him to the answer instead of just giving him the answer

myininaya (myininaya):

\[3^{2+x}=5 \\ \ln(3^{2+x})=\ln(5) \\ \text{ use power rule: } \ln(a^r)=r \ln(a)\]

OpenStudy (smileyxl3):

I guess what I'm confused is the answer that the teacher gave of x = log3 (5) − 2

myininaya (myininaya):

is that log base 3?

OpenStudy (smileyxl3):

Yes

myininaya (myininaya):

if so then take log base 3 of both sides instead of ln( )

myininaya (myininaya):

you will still use power rule though

OpenStudy (decentnabeel):

@myininaya happy

OpenStudy (smileyxl3):

@myininaya could you show what that looks like

myininaya (myininaya):

instead of seeing the ln( ) on both sides write \[\log_3( )\] on both sides

myininaya (myininaya):

you know where I had written ln( )?

OpenStudy (smileyxl3):

Oh never mind I got it

OpenStudy (smileyxl3):

except for the -2 part

OpenStudy (decentnabeel):

\[9\cdot \:3^x=5\] \[\mathrm{Divide\:both\:sides\:by\:}9\] \[3^x=\frac{5}{9}\] \[\mathrm{Use\:the\:following\:exponent\:property}:\quad \frac{1}{a^n}=a^{-n}\] \[\frac{5}{9}=\left(5\right)9^{-1}\] \[3^x=5\cdot \:9^{-1}\] \[\mathrm{If\:}f\left(x\right)=g\left(x\right)\mathrm{,\:then\:}\ln \left(f\left(x\right)\right)=\ln \left(g\left(x\right)\right)\]

OpenStudy (smileyxl3):

@DecentNabeel thanks but that doesn't solve for x

OpenStudy (decentnabeel):

\[\ln \left(3^x\right)=\ln \left(5\cdot \:9^{-1}\right)\] \[\log _a\left(x^b\right)=b\cdot \log _a\left(x\right):\quad \ln \left(3^x\right)=x\ln \left(3\right)\] \[x\ln \left(3\right)=\ln \left(5\cdot \:9^{-1}\right)\]

OpenStudy (decentnabeel):

\[\mathrm{Solve\:}\:x\ln \left(3\right)=\ln \left(5\cdot \:9^{-1}\right):\quad x=-\frac{\ln \left(\frac{9}{5}\right)}{\ln \left(3\right)}\]

myininaya (myininaya):

\[3^{x+2}=5 \\ \text{ take } \log_3( ) \text{ of both sides } \\ \log_3(3^{x+2})=\log(5) \\\] You can use power rule here... the one I mentioned above where you can bring down the exponent on the thing inside the log

OpenStudy (decentnabeel):

\[x\ln \left(3\right)=\ln \left(5\cdot \:9^{-1}\right)\] \[\mathrm{Divide\:both\:sides\:by\:}\ln \left(3\right)\] \[\frac{x\ln \left(3\right)}{\ln \left(3\right)}=\frac{\ln \left(5\cdot \:9^{-1}\right)}{\ln \left(3\right)}\] \[x=-\frac{\ln \left(\frac{9}{5}\right)}{\ln \left(3\right)}\]

OpenStudy (decentnabeel):

@smileyxl3 gotit

myininaya (myininaya):

that one side forgot to write the subscript 3 (the base I mean) \[3^{x+2}=5 \\ \text{ take } \log_3( ) \text{ of both sides } \\ \log_3(3^{x+2})=\log_3(5) \\\] \[log_a(a)=1\] \[\text{ for any } a \text{ that is in } (0,1) \text{ union } (1,\infty) \] can you try to use power rule on the left hand side and then use that last thing I wrote as well

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