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OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Need help with derivatives and the definition of derivatives..

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

The ones with a red line through them, I've already solved. Thank you in advance!

Vocaloid (vocaloid):

are you using the f(x+h) - f(x) divided by (h) method?

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Yes! Sorry for the delay, my internet is not doing well

Vocaloid (vocaloid):

well let's set it up|dw:1461123181498:dw|

Vocaloid (vocaloid):

do you know how to get rid of the radicals?

Vocaloid (vocaloid):

(going to bed soon but here's the solution http://www.sosmath.com/calculus/diff/der01/der01a.html) tag someone if you need an explanation ^^

OpenStudy (photon336):

\[\lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{ f(x+h)-f(x) }{ x+h }\]

OpenStudy (photon336):

@LifeIsADangerousGame say we start of like this. right? \[slope = \frac{ y }{ x }\]

OpenStudy (photon336):

we have some function x and we increase our x value by a small number h so we would have x and x+h now the y value would be f(x) and f(x+h) think of it as taking the difference between these two values and finding the limit as h gets really small or approaches zero.

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

I started the problem but it wasn't working out...(trying to type what I've done so far in here but it's taking a while, but I understand what you're doing so far)

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

\[f(x)= 3\sqrt{x}\] \[f \prime = \frac{3\sqrt{x + h} - 3\sqrt{x}}{ h }\]

OpenStudy (photon336):

\[\frac{ 3\sqrt{x+h} - 3\sqrt{x} }{ 3\sqrt{x}+h }\]

OpenStudy (photon336):

we could probably rationalize the numerator then simplify

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

how did the 3sqrt(x) get on the denom as well?

OpenStudy (photon336):

it should just be h at the bottom

OpenStudy (photon336):

was typing fast

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Okay, so rationalizing the numerator, I'll do that now

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

9h/h(3sqrt(x + h) + 3sqrt(x)?

OpenStudy (photon336):

i see now

OpenStudy (photon336):

\[\frac{ 3\sqrt{x+h}-3\sqrt{x} }{ h} * \frac{ 3\sqrt{x+h} + 3\sqrt{x} }{ 3\sqrt{x+h}+3\sqrt{x} }\]

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Right, that's what I meant sorry

OpenStudy (photon336):

\[\frac{ 9(x+h)-9(x) }{ h(3\sqrt{x+h} +3\sqrt{x} )} \]

OpenStudy (photon336):

\[\frac{ \cancel\9x+9h-\cancel\9x }{ h(3\sqrt{x+h} + 3\sqrt{x} } = \frac{ 9\cancel\h }{\cancel\h(3\sqrt{x+h}+3\sqrt{x} }\]

OpenStudy (photon336):

now watch what happens when we plug in h = 0

OpenStudy (photon336):

\[\frac{ 9 }{ 3\sqrt{x}+3\sqrt{x} } = \frac{ 9 }{ 6\sqrt{x} } = \frac{ 3 }{ 2\sqrt{x}}\]

OpenStudy (photon336):

so we can actually re-write this too

OpenStudy (photon336):

\[\frac{ 3 }{ 2*\sqrt{x} }*\frac{ 2\sqrt{x} }{2\sqrt{x} } = \frac{ 6\sqrt{x} }{ 4x } = \frac{ 3\sqrt{x} }{ 2 x}\]

OpenStudy (photon336):

I could have stopped before but if you don't think this is the same we can use power rule \[\frac{ 3 }{ 2 }\frac{ x^{0.5} }{ x^{1} } = x^{0.5-1} = \frac{ 3 }{ 2 } x^{-0.5} ~or~ \frac{ 3 }{ 2\sqrt{x} }\] different flavors of the same answer.

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

no that makes sense! Thanks for going through all of it so in depth. I finally understand it

OpenStudy (photon336):

yeah, you'll learn the power rule of differentiation which makes this much easier.

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Yeah, he taught us that already, but the exam is on the definition so I have to get used to using both

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