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jagr2713 (jagr2713):

Find the Vertex, Focus, Directrix and Graph

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

\[x ^{2}+8x=4y-8\] I found the Vertex and everything but its telling me i am wrong. @campbell_st

satellite73 (satellite73):

what did you get for the vertex?

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

Umm let me show you my steps for better understanding x2+8x=4y-8 (x+4)^2=4a(y-8) V = (-4,8) D = 1

satellite73 (satellite73):

give me a sec to find the mistake the \(-4\) is right

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

Yea they told me the 8 is wrong D:

satellite73 (satellite73):

oh i see it when you complete the square on the left to turn \(x^2+8x\) in to \((x+4)^2\) you have to add \(4^2=16\) to the right

satellite73 (satellite73):

\[x^2+8x=4y-8\\ (x+4)^2=4y-8+16\] is a start

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

you have an error in the factoring of the right hand side...

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

if you use the model \[(x - h)^2 = 4a(y - k)\] the vertex is (h, k) the focal length is a from there you can find the focus and directrix

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

So @satellite73 (x+4)^2 = 4a(y+4) ?

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

now... if you have 4y - 8 and take 4 asa common factor what's left?

satellite73 (satellite73):

forget the \(a\) \[(x+4)^2=4y+8\] after you add the \(16\) the factor out the four \[(x+4)^2=4(y+2)\]

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

sorry my mistake...

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

OHH yeaaaa How did i forget about factoring D:

OpenStudy (campbell_st):

start by completing the square on the left... and adding the same value to the right

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

Ah so when we divide the left side by 2 we square it again and add it to the right side ?

satellite73 (satellite73):

there is no dividing by two

satellite73 (satellite73):

\[x^2+8x\] on the left forget about the right

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

Oh i mean factor

satellite73 (satellite73):

when you complete the square you have to add 16 to the other side \[(x+4)^2=x^2+8x+16\] so if you add 16 to the left you have to add 16 to the right that turns \[4y-8\] in to \[4y+8\] on the left hand side

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

Yes i get that

satellite73 (satellite73):

i meant "on the right" so you have \[(x+4)^2=4y+8\] factor out the 4 on the right

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

So we get 4(y+2)

satellite73 (satellite73):

yes

jagr2713 (jagr2713):

Ah i get it so the A = 1

satellite73 (satellite73):

now you can read off your answer from the standard form \[(x+4)^2=4(y+2)\]

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