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OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Can some pls help, integrals

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Hello!

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

F=F(x) is the anti-derivative of \[f(x)=(2-x)^2-\frac{ 5 }{ (2-x)^2 }\] which satisfies F(0)=0, find F(3)

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Hi! :)

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

I set u=2-x

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

So basically \(\displaystyle f(x)=(2-x)^2-\frac{ 5 }{ (2-x)^2 }\) is the derivative of some function (will call it F), and this function F(x) satisfies F(0)=0 (we will use this to solve for integration constant C). Then as we find the function, we need to find F(3).

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

If I read that correctly. Alright?

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Yup! Sounds good to me

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Ok, so we need to find (indefinite) integral of this. Yes, u=2-x, is correct.

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Okay cool. Maybe I'm making a really small mistake. Should I show my work first?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Sure

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Okay gimme a min

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

\[\int\limits_{}^{} (u)^2-\frac{ 5 }{ (u)^2 } (\frac{ du }{ -1 })\]

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

\[-1 \int\limits_{}^{} (u)^2-\frac{ 5 }{ (u)^2 }du\]

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

\[-1[\frac{ 1 }{ 3}(u)^3+5(u)^{-1}]\]

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

\[-1[\frac{ 1 }{ 3 }(2-x)^6+5(2-x)+c]\]

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

-1 power.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and 3 power for the first one.

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

ahhh

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

was that your mistake:)

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

right. Idk y i kept the ^2. Thank you!!!

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

No problem ... write it correctly, and if you wish to verify your solution, go on to solve the problem. (If you have any questions, just say that you do.)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Just in case.... ----------------------------------- \(\color{black}{\displaystyle \int f(x)~dx=\int (2-x)^2-\frac{ 5 }{ (2-x)^2 }~dx}\) \(\color{gray}{u=2-x}\) \(\color{gray}{-du=dx}\) \(\color{black}{\displaystyle \int -u^2+\frac{ 5 }{ u^2 }~du=-\frac{1}{3}u^3-\frac{ 5 }{ u }+C}\) \(\color{black}{\displaystyle =-\frac{1}{3}(2-x)^3-\frac{ 5 }{ 2-x }+C}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

So, your antiderivative function is: \(\color{black}{\displaystyle F(x)=-\frac{1}{3}(2-x)^3-\frac{ 5 }{ 2-x }+C}\)

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

thanks for writing it out lol my work is so messy xD

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

You know that \(F(0)=0\). (Given by the problem.) So, you plug this in, directly. \(\color{black}{\displaystyle F(\color{red}{0})=-\frac{1}{3}(2-\color{red}{0})^3-\frac{ 5 }{ 2-\color{red}{0}}+C=0}\) and then go on to solve for C.

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

would c be -c ?

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

or does it stay positive?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

It doesn't matter if you adjust for it. I will try to explain with an example.

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Okay, thanks so much

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

btw i got c=31/6 and F(3)=21/2.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Suppose you have \(f(x)=\int g(x) dx\), \(g(x)=(3-x)^2+2\), you are given that \(g(0)=3\), and you are ASKED TO FIND g(2). Well, your first step is to integrate: \(f(x)=\int g(x) dx=\int [(3-x)^2+2] dx\) then, substitute, \(u=3-x\); \(du=-dx\) \(f(x)=-\int [u^2+2]du\) \(\color{gray}{\rm not~I~will~post~what~I~mean~by~adjusting}\) (sorry for going off track ...)

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

No problem, I appreciate it!

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Algebraically, \(f(x)=-(-x+3)^3-2(-x+3)+C\) \(f(x)=(x-3)^3+2(x-3)+C\) If you say your C is positive (which is what I did now), then \(f(x)=(x-3)^3+2(x-3)+C\) Since \(g(0)=3\), therefore. \(f(0)=3=(-3)^3+2(-3)+C\) \(3=-27-6+C\) \(36=C\) \(f(x)=(x-3)^3+2(x-3)+36\) \(f(2)=(2-3)^3+2(2-3)+36=1-2+36=35\) ------------------------------------------ If you say your C is negative, then \(f(x)=(x-3)^3+2(x-3)-C\) Since \(g(0)=3\), therefore. \(f(0)=3=(-3)^3+2(-3)-C\) \(3=-27-6-C\) \(-36=C\) \(f(x)=(x-3)^3+2(x-3)-(-36)\) \(f(x)=(x-3)^3+2(x-3)+36\) (nothing changes) \(f(2)=(2-3)^3+2(2-3)+36=1-2+36=35\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I made a mistake at the last line of each case, = - 1, so in both cases it is 33.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

BUT, YOU SEE

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Ohhh I see, that clears it up!! Thanks soo much!!!! :D

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

As a matter of fact, in this case, \(f(x)=(x-3)^3+2(x-3)+C\) \(f(x)=(x-3)^3+2x-6+C\) \(f(x)=(x-3)^3+2x+C\) (arbitrary constant - 6 = arbitrary constant) then, \(f(0)=3=(-3)^3+C\) \(C=30\) and then, \(f(x)=(x-3)^3+2x+30\) \(f(2)=(2-3)^3+2(2)+30\) \(f(2)=-1+4+30=33\) (still 33)

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

because it's subtracting a negative so it'll be positive anyways, or add a positive. Thx :)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

So, if you don't plug in the solution from C if you assumed C is positive, into the equation with the negative C, (or vica versa) you are good to go.

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Sweet, thank you thank you thank you!!

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

or see what I did above just now, you can even get rid of this "-6", and still get g(2)=33, as long as you plug in the C correctly.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Ok, anyway, now with your problem.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

You might want to assume it's always positive. That's easier, and I think is certainly "grammatically" correct.

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

lol okay I will do that

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Sure:)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

If you want you may definitely post it here. If you don't, then I won't insist:)) (your choice)

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

The answer or the work? :D

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

What do you mean? (Excuse me)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Oh ... whatever you want to post.

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

You said you can post "it". What do u mean by it? loll

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

You can post your work or your answer for verification, if you wish.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

(Translating what I said_

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Oh it's actually multiple choice and I submitted it online and got it correct :) Thanks to you!

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Nice to hear that:) Good luck with your maths!

OpenStudy (thatonegirl_):

Thank you!!! Good luck with all your stuff too :P

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