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OpenStudy (devonhoward15):

@Will.H

OpenStudy (devonhoward15):

OpenStudy (will.h):

Steve thought u had to go mate xD

OpenStudy (will.h):

i'll solve this using GeoGebra and send you back the pic okay?

OpenStudy (devonhoward15):

just send me coordinates... or pic is fine

OpenStudy (will.h):

is that the polygon indicated in the question or is it the one you did?

OpenStudy (devonhoward15):

thats the one for the question

OpenStudy (will.h):

them how come the center of dilation is (-7,-4) when that coordinate is not one of the polygon vertices!

OpenStudy (devonhoward15):

idk... but i didnt make anything... thats the one that was in the question

OpenStudy (will.h):

@mathmate

OpenStudy (devonhoward15):

you dont know?

OpenStudy (will.h):

i know all about dilations never seen somthing like this

OpenStudy (will.h):

i'll try to solve it on GeoGebra 1 moment

OpenStudy (devonhoward15):

wanna come back to it?

OpenStudy (will.h):

no am solving it

OpenStudy (devonhoward15):

ok

OpenStudy (will.h):

okay let's get back to it later

OpenStudy (devonhoward15):

ok

OpenStudy (devonhoward15):

ill make new question

OpenStudy (will.h):

i don't even deserve a medal tho

OpenStudy (devonhoward15):

yes you do... ill give you a medal cause i have 2 or 3 assignment i need to do offline through kik

OpenStudy (will.h):

hmm a hiden purpose lol okay

OpenStudy (mathmate):

@devonhoward15 Do you want to solve this problem graphically or by transformations?

OpenStudy (will.h):

Transformations

OpenStudy (will.h):

Lol. Am being intrusive XD sorry

OpenStudy (mathmate):

@Will.H All the same! We're just trying to help. What if you take a look at what I posted here: http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/582cf777e4b093340004c25f It gives all the details of the transformation. The idea is to translate point A(x,y) to A'(x-a, y-b) where (a,b) is the centre of dilation to give A''(x1,y1) Do the dilation, and translate the A''(x1+a, y1+b). The same procedure can be done using geogebra.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

edited: @Will.H All the same! We're just trying to help. What if you take a look at what I posted here: http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/582cf777e4b093340004c25f It gives all the details of the transformation. The idea is to translate point A(x,y) to A'(x-a, y-b) where (a,b) is the centre of dilation. Do the dilation to give A"(x1,y1), and translate the A" back to A'''(x1+a, y1+b). The same procedure can be done using geogebra.

OpenStudy (will.h):

Okay sounds interesting So if we say we have point A(3,2) want to have it dilated by scale factor 1/2 And the center of dilation ia (-2,-4) Is this what I have to do A'(4+2,2+4) A'(6,6) THATS IT?

OpenStudy (mathmate):

@Will.H , I am not online too often, so perhaps you could help @devonhoward15 when he returns.

OpenStudy (will.h):

I did help him with 15 questions in the past 1hr XD. Bare w me. Is what I did above correct

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Almost, just A'(3--2,2--4)=A'(5,6), after dilation, A''(2.5,3), then return to original coord. system A'''(2.5-2,3-4)=A'''(1.5,-1) Check this on geogebra if you want. I may have erred.

OpenStudy (will.h):

We forgot something. Shouldn't we also multiply the coordinates by the scale factor?

OpenStudy (will.h):

For example the original case on dilations is (x,y) --> (kx,ky) Where k is the scale factor

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Oops, I got the last step wrong. A'''(2.5-2,3-4)=A'''(0.5,-1) It looks good graphically.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Yep, that how we got A''(5/2,6/2)=A''(2.5,3).

OpenStudy (will.h):

Okay to review the steps. If we have the point (x,y) have it under dilation with scale factor k and center of dilation (m,s) 1st to do is (kx,ky) then (kx - m, ky - s) Do we need to do something else!?

OpenStudy (mathmate):

The first step is translate (x,y)->(x-a, y-b) then dilate (x,y)->(kx,ky) then return by translation (x,y)->(x+a, y+b) If we combine all three (composing), we get (x,y)->(k(x-a)+a, k(x-b)+b) in a single step!

OpenStudy (will.h):

That's what I needed to have. The single step. Thanks Mathmale Xx

OpenStudy (will.h):

Oh mathmate * sorry am used to Mathmale

OpenStudy (mathmate):

No problem! It happens quite often, and I won't blame anyone! lol

OpenStudy (will.h):

Lol u can blame Mathmale

OpenStudy (mathmate):

No, I won't blame my twin! lol

OpenStudy (will.h):

Are you a professor as well?

OpenStudy (mathmate):

No I am not. I didn't know he is.

OpenStudy (will.h):

Oh he is. What are you then if u dm asking XD. A teacher?

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Sorry, gtg!

OpenStudy (will.h):

Okay. Thanks again

OpenStudy (mathmate):

k, bye!

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