Question

Why has openstudy become so dull? As in I remember seeing at least a healthy 75-100 members online most of the time and there used to be a lot more challenging questions and more than anything willingness to learn. Now I just see most want just the answer. I am pretty sure commenting such things is strictly prohibited as per the COC but I had to say this.

Answer 1

now the number has reduced to slightly below 50

Answer 2

i agree with u

Answer 3

Oh, I apologise. I didn't know about a feedback page at all.

Just went through some and yes this brainly buyout doesn't seem to help. It rather just diverts the traffic. They've just used this as a medium to advertise their brand I guess. Also, funnily I happened to visit brainly and even there, there isn't much activity.

Answer 4

Because, I always ask a damn question and close it from boredom. None even comment or I get awesome useful feedback like, Try asking in another section like physics which none has checked since 2014

Answer 5

That's the whole point... its like that now, but it was not like this. In fact now I see no reason for using the bump button. Sometime back I used to use it so much.

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@osprey, bro no one gives a pellet about that. I don't even know where it is or why it's there.

See, tkhunny seems like someone who got affected by the Coc Police virus.

Answer 7

@osprey No. There is no censorship. One agrees to the Code of Conduct when one makes an account. One also agrees to follow the Code of Conduct. The ONLY reason one might perceive "CoC Police" is dishonesty and deliberate noncompliance. If one would restrict one's behavior, with integrity, to the subjects and expressions to which one agreed when one created an account, there would be no such impression in one's mind.

Answer 8

@tkhunny , tkhunny is someone for which the ban and warning buttons were made.

I got like 15 warning and 2 bans from him since account creation.

Answer 9

@TrojanPoem Thank you. A perfect example. Many USED to come here because they thought it a safe place to hang out on the internet. Many parents encouraged their children to come here because they thought it a safe place to hang out on the internet. Many used to come because they wanted and needed some help - and they were able to get it. Many used to come because they were able to help. I, for one, came ONLY to help. Sadly, since becoming a Moderator, I have spent FAR TOO MUCH time fighting to keep this a safe place, free from those who think it their right and responsibility to make it just as dirty and filthy as so much of the rest of the internet. The thing is this, without voluntarily compliance with reasonable rules, we can't hire enough Moderators. Without voluntary compliance, everything will deteriorate. This is what you are seeing. It is not the CoC that is the problem. It is not the "Police" that are the problem. It is lack of integrity.

Answer 10

The way I see it, there's plenty of censorship. Either you adhere to the rules by censoring yourself, or the moderators adhere you to the rules by censoring you. But, you consent to this censorship, by using the site. This isn't public property, and as such, it's "you're under my house, you're under my rules".

Answer 11

@tkhunny , Private chat isn't safe :P

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After all , maybe If I read the CoC I would find it nice.

Answer 12

Peace ✌

Answer 13

Even I got a warning for giving out the answer directly a day back. But the guy who had asked the question had said 'Need no steps, just the answer'
I wanted to ignore that question but if I could help him in some way... I just did that. Like I said... a very few want to learn.

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@inkyvoyd No, voluntary compliance to reasonable rules is not censorship. There are many who require no change at all to their behavior to follow the Code of Conduct. There are many who live "under [a] roof" just fine, and they feel no need to change their behavior because they agree with and to the rules and they choose to be different. This is neither oppression nor censorship. When you come into a room understanding and agreeing to the rules, there is no censorship. This is voluntary. No one is forced to come here. If you don't like the rules, don't come. This does not fit the definition of censorship. If you have an axe to grind and you want to make some grand social statement about censorship, feel free to do that - somewhere where you have NOT agreed to follow the rules. Find a public forum for that. When you agree to follow reasonable rules, you demonstrate a lack of integrity when you do not follow them. Is your word worth anything? Does your agreement mean anything? Note: I don't mean you, personally, as one who fails to demonstrate integrity. I think we've been getting along just fine for quite a while.

Answer 15

@mecharv ? warning from tkhunny ?

Answer 16

Well, @tkhunny , I suppose we have different definitions of the word censorship. But I agree and stand by your statements... I just don't see the point of certain users coming on here and complaining about the rules they've agreed to in the first place. There is nothing stopping them from starting their own site with their own rules... In fact, there are plenty of preexisting sites that have more relaxed rules anyhow...

Answer 17

Help xD

http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/583857a7e4b0af95e0d5bb16

Answer 18

@mecharv It is true that as people make up their own rules, after agreeing to the real set of rules, it becomes confusing. We are not to give "just answers". It's in the rules. Don't do it. Simple as that. No one I am aware of has the authority to abandon that rule. You should have received a warning for that. It is an opportunity to learn the rules. You see pretty clearly that there are some who are not aware of the rules and have no intention of following them. Such should encounter learning opportunities.

@TrojanPoem It doesn't matter who issues warning. They are learning opportunities. This information is in the Code of Conduct. You should read it, particularly since you agreed to it and are bound to abide by it - or you would not have been able to create an account.

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An interesting (entirely speculative) observation I've had regarding this shortage of users is it's simply a supply and demand problem. Other websites allow the giving of direct answers, for better or for worse, and as such, users tend to migrate from there. I could go so far as to argue that our parent site, which has these markedly different policies, became so big and was able to buy out OS for that reason... But this is non-sequitur anyways...

As @tkhunny mentioned, you're free to stay or leave as you please; of course if you stay, you have to follow the rules of the site, or risk getting kicked off, which is entirely deserved. If this community of people willing to learn and teach (and not just give answers) dies, then I guess so be it. But for now at least, it seems to stay...

Answer 20

Giving direct answers does not really help the user much. Unfortunately that's what a lot of users want

Answer 21

I'm pretty sure thats why the numbers in OS have diminished so much.

Answer 22

YOu are right, OS has become really dull!

Answer 23

Another new situation is where people post questions and leave. I have experienced where all of the question was not posted and the asker was offline within 7 minutes according to the system. I like to help but I am tired of people intentionally posting in the wrong section and those who just expect an answer and devalue the learning process.

Answer 24

@triciaal This could be a direct "Denial of Service" attack. There are those who are just out to watch the World burn. If something good is happening, they feel a strong desire to disrupt it. This is why I generally avoid particularly thoughtful replies on the first try. I'm waiting for the OP to demonstrate some caring. This wastes far less time.

Answer 25

what do you mean by a "denial of service attack"?

Answer 26

It keeps you busy so you can't be doing anything useful. Wasting valuable resources.

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@triciaal Very true, they post and leave, I saw someone had even tagged you on their question and left, totally pathetic. It is as though they just want someone else to do their work while they dont even want to try.

@tkhunny Whats with the denial of service 'attack' ?? I am sure people have much better job than making OS a bad place.

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You would think. I am certain it is not so. I could name users. i will refrain.

Answer 29

@tkhunny You definitely would know better _/\_

Answer 30

@TrojanPoem

+1

Answer 31

@osprey There is no requirement to know an answer. It would be quite acceptable to have a conversation and discover an answer through collaboration. It's what OpenStudy should be about.

Answer 32

Warnings are not intended as punishments. They are reminders that there are rules to maintain order.

Poetry in Physics? I might mention it, but "sackable", I don't know who would do that. And "spam"? Well, I have to admit there are some significant variations in rule interpretation. Some Mods may be new and may not know that the automated messages are not required. Maybe they just pick one they perceive to be closest.

I've never heard of "Grammar Police". I have to wonder why anyone would do that. Edit your posts? Who can do that? I don't know how to do that.

Anyway, I'm not here to contradict you. Thank you for your honest input. I hope the right ones listen.

Answer 33

I see. There are filters for profanity. Some things get changed whether it is justified, or not. Try not to let that bother you. There are so many who spend their time mocking the language filters, that the filters are turned necessarily to VERY sensitive. I've even been edited by the filters. I was NOT using profanity. It may be a bit annoying to get used to that. It's the profaners' fault, not the filters.

Answer 34

to profane - treat with irreverence or disrespect
to swear - use offensive language
to use vulgar language - making explicit and offensive reference to sex or bodily functions; coarse and rude.

This sort of thing WILL be changed by the filters, EVEN IF the word or phase is in a different context where the reference might be quite appropriate.

It should also be noted that some words have become SO COMMON that many no longer believe them to be profane or vulgar. This belief does not change the definition.

Answer 35

Blame the profaners, not the filters. If there were no profaners, the filters would serve no purpose.

Answer 36

It is neither "wrong" nor "misleading". It is REQUIRED and it is explained in the Code of Conduct and Terms of Service you approved when you were allowed to create an account with OpenStudy.

You're still blaming the wrong thing. The filters are NECESSARY because there are users who choose not to resist vulgarity and profanity. Your altruistic needs are outweighed by the mandatory implementation of the filters. It happens everywhere in life. A few people who choose not to control themselves make everything worse for the rest of us. This is your situation. This is everyone's situation.

If you want freedom of expression without any filters, you will have to do it somewhere besides OpenStudy. Simple as that.