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kaylak:

help voc

kaylak:

@Vocaloid

kaylak:

yay help

Vocaloid:

do you understand how synthetic division works?

kaylak:

kind of

Vocaloid:

for problem 1, start by writing the coefficients of the polynomial

kaylak:

1 -12 54 -108 81

kaylak:

1 -3 -1 3

Vocaloid:

then put these into a synthetic division symbol

Vocaloid:

only one at a time please

kaylak:

so like question number 2

Vocaloid:

|dw:1507841782763:dw|

Vocaloid:

bring the first coefficient down

Vocaloid:

|dw:1507841845404:dw|

Vocaloid:

then multiply across this direction

kaylak:

it's not a factor

Vocaloid:

|dw:1507841940663:dw|

Vocaloid:

then we add down the column and keep repeating the process

Vocaloid:

|dw:1507842044161:dw|

Vocaloid:

do you think you can try the rest of it?

kaylak:

it's c and d

kaylak:

right?

Vocaloid:

I haven't finished the calculations yet

Vocaloid:

yeah I get c and d too

kaylak:

2nd one

Vocaloid:

I noticed in the third column they tried to multiply 1*1 to get 2? so I believe that's where the error is

Vocaloid:

so line 2

Vocaloid:

anyway, for the last one, let me check your calculations

kaylak:

ok

Vocaloid:

yes, your answer is correct

kaylak:

i'll have a few more of i can't figure them out

Vocaloid:

ok, go for it

Vocaloid:

complex root theorem: if a + bi is a root then a - bi is a root

Vocaloid:

so if -3 + 2i is a root, what must also be a root?

kaylak:

c

Vocaloid:

yup good

Vocaloid:

for 2 you would just have to do synthetic division with all of the roots (sorry)

Vocaloid:

oh wait I just realized that some of the roots are complex hmm

kaylak:

a?

Vocaloid:

well this is embarrassing I don't remember how to find complex roots for non-quadratic equations

Vocaloid:

my best bet would be to plug in the complex root and see which one gives you 0 as the result

Vocaloid:

sorry ;;

Vocaloid:

I know the answer is either a or b based on -4 not being a root

kaylak:

i got all my answers correct

Vocaloid:

oh awesome! good job

Vocaloid:

I'm really rusty on this stuff ;_;

kaylak:

wanna help me on a little more if i need it

Vocaloid:

maybe not today, I need a break ;; I think sillybilly should be able to assist though

kaylak:

@sillybilly123

sillybilly123:

you only need to look at the lead terms. right?

sillybilly123:

cos you're putting unbelievably large numbers into a function.

kaylak:

just tot figure out end behavior yes

kaylak:

or you could graph it

sillybilly123:

why bother?

sillybilly123:

imagine in your head that you are looking at those functions, you realise that it is only really the leading term that matters for big numbers,...., and the let x = 10. hardly a big number, but you are starting to move away from the y-axis

kaylak:

b and d look wrong a?

sillybilly123:

well the ones with leading exponents that are even should give rise to even functions. options #3 and # 4. symmetrical.

kaylak:

then c

sillybilly123:

i'd look at a) and b) if i were you

kaylak:

there is only one answer

sillybilly123:

OMG, c) has \(x^6\) as the leading term. So it gets really big as \(x\) gets really big. but it is always going to be +ve, right?!?!

sillybilly123:

The answer is a) because as x gets really large you only really need to compute the first term: \(y = 7 x^9\). That function goes to \(+\infty\) as \(x \to +\infty\) and vice versa

kaylak:

i knew i was right

kaylak:

help on more?

sillybilly123:

when you say ""i knew i was right", did you mean that?!

kaylak:

not completely i knew b and d were wrong

sillybilly123:

k one more new thread though

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