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jnlkmnjkm:

math problem

jnlkmnjkm:

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unwxntedchxd:

no clue man sorry

XxXNessalulbaddieXxX:

do yk what a probala is ?

unwxntedchxd:

sophia got this one

jnlkmnjkm:

yep

XxXNessalulbaddieXxX:

ohhhhh symeterical shii yea this is like oof

jnlkmnjkm:

@Florisalreadytaken

Florisalreadytaken:

lets just start with the quadratic form \[y = a \times (x-b) + c\]

jnlkmnjkm:

alright

Florisalreadytaken:

so a=? b=? c=?

jnlkmnjkm:

-4, -1, -8

AZ:

Since you can't determine the vertex, you can just use the roots to find the equation What are the two places where the line crosses the x-axis?

jnlkmnjkm:

-4 -1

AZ:

Exactly, -4 and -1 So that means x = -4 and x = -1 so remember how if we had an equation and we factored it and got something like (x+2) (x +3) = 0 then your answer was x = -2 and x = -3 so now for our question, we have x = -4 and x = -1 can you put that in the same form?

jnlkmnjkm:

(x-4) (x-1) = 0

AZ:

not quite if it was x-4 then x = 4 same thing x-1 would mean x = 1 but we have x = -4 and x = -1 so just bring those numbers to the other side so that way you have 0 on the other side of the equal sign

jnlkmnjkm:

im not sure

AZ:

So look at the example again (x+2)(x+3) = 0 that means (x+2) = 0 x = -2 and (x+3) = 0 so x = -3

AZ:

So again, let's work backwards from this example if we wanted x = -2 and x = -3 then x = -2 x + 2 = -2 + 2 x + 2 = 0 and x = -3 x + 3 = -3 + 3 x + 3 = 0 so we get (x+2)(x+3) does that make sense? so what would it be for x = -1 and x = -4

jnlkmnjkm:

(x+1) (x+4)

AZ:

There you go!! Now your question probably wants you to expand it so multiply it out |dw:1617735141306:dw|

AZ:

\( (a+b)(c+d) = ac + bc + ad + bd\)

jnlkmnjkm:

x^2+5x+4

AZ:

That's your answer

jnlkmnjkm:

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AZ:

wait it was backwards though so we have to multiply the entire thing by -1 but we also have to figure out by what factor they're multiplying it y = -a(x+4)(x+1) y = -a(x^2 + 5x + 4) so look at your graph and you see that at (0, 8) is a point that is on the green curve so plug it in 8 = -a(0^2 + 5(0) + 4) can you solve for a?

jnlkmnjkm:

im not sure

AZ:

Let's look at the (0^2 + 5(0) + 4) first what is 0^2 = 0*0 = ?? what is 5 * 0 and then there's + 4 so add it all up

jnlkmnjkm:

(0+0+4)

jnlkmnjkm:

4

AZ:

good so now we have. Remember, we got that -8 because in the graph, the point was (0, -8) so we plugged in x = 0 and we replaced y with -8 -8 = -4a what is a = ?

jnlkmnjkm:

4

AZ:

no -8 = -4a divide -4 on both sides

AZ:

no...? -8 / -4 =

jnlkmnjkm:

-2

AZ:

no, what is a negative number divided by a negative number? it's positive

jnlkmnjkm:

2

AZ:

there you go so that means a = 2 and so we have \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @AZ wait it was backwards though so we have to multiply the entire thing by -1 but we also have to figure out by what factor they're multiplying it y = -a(x+4)(x+1) y = -a(x^2 + 5x + 4) so look at your graph and you see that at (0, 8) is a point that is on the green curve so plug it in 8 = -a(0^2 + 5(0) + 4) can you solve for a? \(\color{#0cbb34}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

AZ:

and so now we're at y = -a(x^2 + 5x + 4) and since a =2 y = -2(x^2 + 5x + 4) can you distribute -2 inside the parenthesis?

jnlkmnjkm:

im not sure

AZ:

just distribute |dw:1617736419549:dw|

AZ:

multiply the -2 with each term

jnlkmnjkm:

--2x^2-10x-8

AZ:

that's your final answer \( -2x^2 -10x-8\)

surjithayer:

let the eq. of parabola be y=ax^2+bx+c \[\because ~it~passes~through (-4,0),(-1,0) and (0,-8) so 0=16a-4b+c 0=-a-b+c subtract 17a-3b=0 3b=17a b=17/3 a and -8=0a+0b+c c=-8 16a-4b-8=0 or 4a-b-2=0 4a-b=2 (1) and -a-b-8=0 or a+b=-8 (2) add 5a=-6 a=-6/5 from (2) -6/5+b=-8 b=-8+6/5 b=(-40+6)/5=-34/5 so y=-6/5 x^2-34/5x-8

AZ:

I have not seen that method before but it's not correct. Your equation doesn't even pass through the point (-1, 0) so there must be some error https://www.desmos.com/calculator/a78eiz82if

surjithayer:

so there may be some mistake in calculation.

surjithayer:

let me see

surjithayer:

yes i found the mistake 0=a-b+c

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