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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find the surface area of the regular pentagonal pyramid. The apothem of the pentagon is 5.5cm and AB =10 cm. The edge base length at the bottom of the figure is 8cm. Round answers to the nearest tenth of a unit.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Surface area = 200 cm^2 can anyone see if this is right?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

apothem is the face height and not the pyramid height right?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

what is AB mean?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

prolly height of pyrimaid

OpenStudy (anonymous):

apothem is a line segment from the center of the polygon perpendicular to one of its sides.... AB is ... A is the tip of the pyramid... to the base.. an edge of a side

OpenStudy (anonymous):

B is on the bottom

OpenStudy (anonymous):

pentagonal 5 sides

OpenStudy (amistre64):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

looks good

OpenStudy (amistre64):

8*5.5*5 is side areas, do we include the bottom as well?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

l^2 = (5.5)^2 + (4)^2 l = sqrt 5.5^2 + 4^2 sqrt yea... I think I did

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sqrt 30.25 + 16 sqrt 46.25 p = 6.8 1/2(40)(6.8) + 8^2 = 200

OpenStudy (amistre64):

sqrt((4^2) + (5.5^2)) = 6.80073525 doesnt = 10 sqrt((8^2) + (5.5^2)) = 9.7.... is close to 10 If the edge AB that runs slong the side is 10, that means the base is 16

OpenStudy (amistre64):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

8 * 5 * 5.5 = 220 for sides areas .... but to include the base we'd have to do some more calculations

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok well its just asking for the surface area.... LA + B

OpenStudy (amistre64):

this is what I got so far; I can calculate the missing parts the hard way... but thats just how I role lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ha oh boy

OpenStudy (amistre64):

16^2 = 2s^2 -2s^2 cos(74) 16^2 = s^2(2-2cos(74)) 16^2 -------- = s^2 2-2cos(74) Area in red = (s^2 sin(74))/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh wow... so um... tell me you get 200 LOL

OpenStudy (amistre64):

:) I get about 85 there ... if I did it right but *5 gotta chk it again make sure I aint messed it up

OpenStudy (amistre64):

hah!! i had 72 but used 74 lol .....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok I'll check again too... good eye

OpenStudy (amistre64):

I get abt 440.5 for the bottom area that way

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i wonder if there is a calculator to find the area... let me investigate LOL

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i think I see an easier way; tan(54) = h/8 h = 8 tan(54)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

16/2 = 8 8 * 8tan(54) = area of red tri 5* area red tri = area base

OpenStudy (amistre64):

= 215.6

OpenStudy (amistre64):

220 215.6 ------- 435.6 abt for the surface areas

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hey whats the side length, and what is the slant length

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is 10 slant and 8 side

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the side length of the pyramid is 10; and the slant is 5.5

OpenStudy (amistre64):

that 215.6 is off

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I thought the apothem was 5.5

OpenStudy (amistre64):

aint that the slant?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=area+pentagon+side+%3D16 I keep coming to 440.442 as area of base

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the calculator is asking for apothem length side length slant length enter height

OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://easycalculation.com/area/pyramid.php pentagonal pyramid

OpenStudy (amistre64):

5.5 16 10 is what I used

OpenStudy (amistre64):

Sa = 620 .... 220 440.5 ------ so we are close 660.5

OpenStudy (amistre64):

edge base length is what I cant be to sure about; how do you describe that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ha your awesome.... hey it says round to the nearest tenth unit...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the edge where the number is in my book LOL on AB?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats my lingo... lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I was trying to describe whatever you were asking

OpenStudy (amistre64):

:) does my interpretation for this look good then?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if I got the 8 in the right place... then im good to go

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the 8s are at the bottom of base of the pyramid

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes; the red is just a reflection into the base under the pyramid

OpenStudy (anonymous):

where alll the edges meet and creat the pentagonal base

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A is the top of the pyramid.... and B is at the bottom with the 8s

OpenStudy (anonymous):

AB is a side of one of them triangles

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the tiny dancer is what I have pictured

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well there it is!!! yep looks just like it LOL

OpenStudy (amistre64):

then: Sa = 5(face area) + 5(redbase area) Sa = 5(5.5*16/2) + 5(8*8tan(54)/2) Sa = 660.442

OpenStudy (amistre64):

16*8tan(54)/2 lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh wow...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

we got a way to verify this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea that calulator if I know the right numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I dunno... I'm going with what you did!

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ive been trying to define apothem, slant heaight, and all that stuff; but nothing is consistant. apothem of a pyramid most likely means the height of a face; slant height also means distance up the face; so I cant seem to determine what any of it really means..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

85.8253 slnat height is 10? and sides are 5

OpenStudy (amistre64):

do you know how to do a screenshot?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (amistre64):

do you see the "PrtScrn" key that you never use up there with the "pause", and "scroll lock" keys? press it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k

OpenStudy (amistre64):

now open up your 'paint' program and hit your 'ctrl + v' keys to paste it. and let me know if it worked

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

save it to your desktop as a jpeg and attach it to this post

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that what you wanted?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yep; now do that to the screen that has the problem on it :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the problem is is in my book

OpenStudy (amistre64):

can you take a picture of it? and put it on the computer? maybe a scanner?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok hang on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that what you wanted LOL

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

kk

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the apothem of the pentagon is 5.5 ; thats the length from the center of the base out to the base edge... much better

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just an FYI regular pyramid formula is LA + B Yes , i thought I told you that :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

this is the correct picture I needed lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I still get 200

OpenStudy (amistre64):

Sa = 5(8*sqrt(10^2+4^2)/2) + 5(8*5.5/2) Sa = 5(4*sqrt(116)) + 5(4*5.5) Sa = 20sqrt(116) + 20(5.5) Sa = 325.406592 ....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what did we determine the slant length is

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the slant length is the missing leg of the right tri formed by half the base and a hyp of 10 sh^2 + 4^2 = 10^2 sh = sqrt(100 - 16) .. doh!! I added

OpenStudy (anonymous):

9.16

OpenStudy (anonymous):

9.17

OpenStudy (amistre64):

Sa = 293.303

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how guaranteed.... I get 366.6

OpenStudy (amistre64):

is side 10 or 8?

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