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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Please help me with this problem :) It is a radical equation, thanks!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x-\sqrt{10-9x}=-20\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Descriptions are loved :D I have a test so i need to understand this stuff better

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

square the whole equation, you'll get (x^2) - 10 -9x = 400 (x^2) - 9x - 410 = 0 solve the quadratic

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How did you get x^2?

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

sasogeek not is right

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

yes you need

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

square both sides

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that sounds right, like ( )^2 on both sides?

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

(x-sqrt(10-9x))2 = 400

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

so than we will get x2 -2xsqrt(10-9x) +(10-9x) =400

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

square every term in the equation to clear the square root sign \[(x) ^{2} - (\sqrt{10-9x} )^{2} = (-20)^{2}\]\[x ^{2} - (10-9x) = 400\]\[x ^{2}-9x-410=0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do you solve the bottom Saso, I have issues with x^2

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

x2-2sqrt(10-9x) +10-9x =400 -2sqrt(10-9x)=400-x2-10+9x -2sqrt(10-9x)=390-x2+9x thsi you need squared again 4(10-9x)=(390-x2+9x)2

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

johnyy i think you're answering a whole different question...

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

sasoo how you square (a+b) this not is equal a2+2ab+b2

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

???

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

you're so wrong and i'll tell u why

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

on the left part there is a-b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x^{2}-9x=410\] Is this how it should look next Saso? How do i go about solving the rest if it is?

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

notice that, any number under a square root is the same as the number raised to the power 1/2. hence if u square it again, you'll have the powers multiplying, (1/2)2, this will result in 1. hence you'll have the number under the square root unchanged and the square root goes away

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

and yes that's how it should look like, but because it is a quadratic, you move everything to one side and solve for x

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

Starshine7 check it before you belive

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

yes but on the left parte there is a-b squared

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

what will be equal a2-2ab+b2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It says I should factor somewhere in this problem?? Ugh im confused

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

johnyy you're confused, relax and let me explain okay :)

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

chek it the answer in your book

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

sasogeek calcule when there is a-b squared how many will be ?

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

let me use ur theory to prove u wrong :)

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

ok let's go i will wait

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol maybe i should grab some popcorn XD

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

Starshine7 can you check the answer in your mathbooke

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its online, and it tells me that the answer is one number (example: 1,2,3)

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

(x+20)2=10-9x x2+40x+400=10-9x x2+49x+390=0

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

you need to solve this quadratic equation

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

when u have \[\sqrt{a}\] it is the same as \[(a)^{1/2}\] so if u have \[\sqrt{a-b}\] it is the same as \[(a-b)^{1/2}\] now if u have (a-b) \[(a-b)^{2}=a ^{2}-2ab+b ^{2}\] you should realize that \[\sqrt{a-b}\neq(a-b)\] hence the (a-b)^2 law doesn't apply \[(\sqrt{a-b})^{2}=((a-b)^{1/2})^{2}\] \[(1/2) \times 2 = 1\] implying that \[((a-b)^{1/2})^{2}=(a-b)^{1}\]\[=(a-b)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm really confused o.o You are solving a radical equation right? How do you solve and equation with x^2?

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

that's quite difficult to explain lol but lets see

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

do u have an idea how to do it already?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm not sure, squaring stuff just confuses me, I have memory issues so grasping stuff can be harder for me i tend to blank out

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

umm do u have skype? it'll be easier to teach that whole topic of solving quadratics on there than here, not that i can't do it here, it'll just be way easier

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont, im on a mac. :) Thanks so much for your time though, I really appreciate it. its only my own fault that I dont understand it.

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

nahh don't sweat it ;) you should read more on google then

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I may try youtube lol but they are not really that informative on certain things

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

search for khanacademy on youtube

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

sowhen you want solve one quadratic equation first calcule the discriminat what is equal b2-4ac and hence

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

do you know this methode ?

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

he mentioned he has little knowledge about quadratics... don't teach him that yet

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

i have wrote to Sunshine7

jhonyy9 (jhonyy9):

so than ok bye

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

Johyy what grade are u in?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm a girl O.O

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

lol its ok :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha XD

OpenStudy (sasogeek):

sorry for calling u a he then :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:) thats okay

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