Neemo
Like a is an empty set that means it contains noo elements
yes !
but like ik that the empty set symbol is sometimes considered like an element
the empty set is a subset of all sets if I recall correctly
ya it is
like it can be a set that contains one element the empty set element
yes !
So ill give u the example here
kk !
Find the number os elements in the set
the empty set contains no elements, so it is not an element in itself
okkkkkk thanks
that is what i needed to know
welcome :)
It can be an element of another set ! for example A={∅}...the empty set is an element of A !
ohhh i seee
How many elements r in : \( {x \in R : x^2 = -1} \)
I would say 0 elements
yeah !
that's it ( I guess no !) !:) !
lol Thanks :)
no ! I'm not talking about the medal ! I don't care about medals It's just a stupid button !
ikkkk lol
I meant anything else to ask ?
nope not yet lol
kk ! you can ask me anytime you want ! C u later ! :)
@Neemo can you site a reference? because my understanding is that the empty set is not an element because it has cardinality of 0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empty_set http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_an_empty_set_element_of_any_set_s the empty set is a *subset* of any set, but not an element of any set as far as I know
kk I'll look for a reference ! But ... the empty set is also an element of the set of the subsets ......of any set !
I see what you are saying Neemo, but the technicality is a bit confusing. I admit I have not studied set theory deeply. http://planetmath.org/FunctionsFromEmptySet.html
:) :) this is driving me crazy too ! set theory is not yet completed ! there are a lot of unfinished task there.... so ...this answer . "The empty element is a subset of any set--the empty set is even a subset of itself. But it is not an element of every set; in particular, the empty set cannot be an element of itself because the empty set has no elements." is correct ! he (or she) said that It sn't an element of every set ! "just " a subset ! is correct ! in wikipidia's article ! The power set of the empty set is a set containing only the empty set: that's meam that the empty set is an element of "the power set" a box that contain only empty box is not empty ! I hate when I say that :) :) ! Clear now !
Wow, still confusing, but a little more clear now. I think this is where the Franko-Zermelo revision of set theory gets messy. I guess it is still somewhat a work in progress as you say. Thanks!
and I'm a "he" :)
you're welcome anytime ! I didn't mean you ! who wrote the answer in wiki answer ! Nice to meet you anyway :) !
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