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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Are these logically equivalent (please explain why or why not): Statement (Conditional): If I get an A on my math homework, then Dr. Madness will be defeated. Code #1 (Inverse): If I do not get an A on my math homework, then Dr. Madness will not be defeated. Code #2 (Converse): If Dr. Madness is defeated, then I got an A on my math homework. Code #3 (Contrapositive): If Dr. Madness is not defeated, then I did not get an A on my math homework. **I got the rest of my work done but this part confuzzled me, lol. Please help.?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Contapositive of a statement is always true, if the original statement is true

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

which part confuses you @that1chick

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just dont get how to explain if something is logically equivalent

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the lesson didnt giva a good example

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

ok well lets just go thru all the statements and see y the other ones r not logically equivalent

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you show me how to do the first, i can probably get the rest..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so if dont have an A, then hes not defeated... right? lol

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

Ok so if I get an A then Dr madness will be defeated that is our original statement

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for the Contrapositive

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

do u know abt truth tables btw?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sry, paying attension.. pray continue

OpenStudy (anonymous):

truth table?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

thats right @that1chick lets go one by one... as @swissgirl is trying to help..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Dr Madness will be defeated if he gets sick down with cold also... your getting A is just one way of defeating him

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you mean statement vs nagation..? @swissgirl

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, so theres other way to beat him

OpenStudy (anonymous):

my way just helps me too (:

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

so all we know is that if I get an A then Dr. Madness will be defeated Inverse: If I dont get an A then Dr. Madness will not be defeated This isnt equivalent to the original statement cuz he can get defeated anotherr way like @ganeshie8 said all we know is that if i get an A then he will be defeated

OpenStudy (anonymous):

toshea

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yup! original statement DOESNT specifically say, your getting A is the only way to defeat him. so there are other ways too..

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

Converse: If Dr. Madness is defeated then I got an A As we said b4 he can get defeated another way

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for the Converse, just cuz he is defeated doesnt mean I get an A, right?

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

yes

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

BUTTTTTT the last statement says If Dr. Madness is not defeated then I didnt get an A is logically equivalent to our original statement since if he was defeated then i got an A but since he wasnt defeated then obv i didnt get an A

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks yall for helping me not be such a dits xD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and yall made it towhere i wont need help on this type of problem again! double thanks!! (:

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

hhahahah your welcome :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

**Basically it’s a one-way street, if I get an A then he was defeated, but just because he was defeated does not necessarily mean I got an A as there could have been other ways to defeat him. <--- summed up ;D

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

yesssssss kinda but its a two way street in my opinion since if he wasnt defeated than I didnt get an A

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

u just forgot to include the last statement

OpenStudy (anonymous):

his defeat does not mean I got an a, but my A means he was defeated

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

but u need to include that if he wasnt defeated then i didnt get an A

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so, if I did not get an A then he could have still been defeated and him getting defeated does not mean I got an A

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wanna read my thing to see if I got it right? ...its kinda long

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

ya y not. U r correct with what u r saying but u left out a point that if he isnt defeated then I didnt get an A

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1. From the conditional statement that you wrote, determine if the inverse, converse, and contrapositive are logically equivalent. Explain for each statement why or why not.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The conditional statement is “If I get an A on my math homework, then Dr. Madness will be defeated.” This is not logically equivalent to the (inverse) statement “If I do not get an A on my math homework, then Dr. Madness will not be defeated” because he can get defeated another way than by me getting an A on my math homework. The same goes for the (converse) statement “If Dr. Madness is defeated, then I got an A on my math homework” as he can be defeated other ways than by me getting an A on my math homework. However, the (contrapositive) statement “If Dr. Madness is not defeated, then I did not get an A on my math homework” as the condition statement had stated that if I got an A, then Dr. Madness was defeated which is equivalent to saying that if Dr. Madness was not defeated, then I get no A. **Basically it’s a one-way street, if I get an A then he was defeated, but just because he was defeated does not necessarily mean I got an A as there could have been other ways to defeat him. Also, if I did not get an A then he could still have been defeated, and him getting defeated does not mean I got an A. Point blank, if he isn’t defeated then there is not way I got an A.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks, I had forgot that part

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

ok I just corrected a few minor details. Sorry it took soo long my sis was just bothering me The conditional statement is “If I get an A on my math homework, then Dr. Madness will be defeated.” This is not logically equivalent to the (inverse) statement “If I do not get an A on my math homework, then Dr. Madness will not be defeated” because he can get defeated another way than by me getting an A on my math homework. The same goes for the (converse) statement “If Dr. Madness is defeated, then I got an A on my math homework” as he can be defeated other ways than by me getting an A on my math homework. However, the (contrapositive) statement “If Dr. Madness is not defeated, then I did not get an A on my math homework” is logically equivalent to the original conditional statement since if I got an A then Dr. Madness was defeated but if Dr. Madness wasn't defeated then its impossible that I got an A and therefore I didnt get an A **Basically it’s a one-way street, if I get an A then he was defeated, but just because he was defeated does not necessarily mean I got an A as there could have been other ways to defeat him. Also, if I did not get an A then he could still have been defeated, and him getting defeated does not mean I got an A. Point blank, if he isn’t defeated then there is not way I got an A.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now I just gotta figure out how to answer the last question so I can turn it in(:

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

what is the last question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The mayor isn’t as good at geometric proofs as the Geo Squad. Explain to the mayor how using geometric proofs helps maintain the order in Geo City.

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

lol cant help u with that but post that question on another post and see what u get. Maybe others can answer that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k thanks (:

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

noooo close this question and then ask another one

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

its gonna confuse everyone

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i was about to ask you that lol

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