Hi, I would like to know what's the easiest way to identify a permutation and combination and distinguish between the two
the most obvious way is... permutation uses the word "arrange"..combination uses the word "select"
Ok seems easy enough. Could you provide an example. I have already practiced a few but seem to mix them up a lot.
Let's try something basic... How many 5 letter arrangements can be made from the letters of DRAGON
oops wait needs to be 6!
are you talking to me or estudier?
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Dragon will be 6! = 1x2x3x4x5x6 ways the letters can be arranged
right, but note: i said 5 letter arrangements
ok let me work that out by using the permutation formula.
sure
6P5 thus 6 being a set of 6 object and 5 being k number of objects in the set.
right
would you like something that involves more thinking?
Yes the worse the better. always get the worst in exams.
A car license plate consists of 3 letters followed by a 3-digit number. How many license plates are theoretically possible?
The letters are currently not specified so it can be a - z and this is not dependent on order. (So the first part of the numberplate is a combination). The second part of the numberplate is also not dependent on order making it a comination.
close...but one part is wrong
the second part is somehow dependent on order....note: somehow
Ill have to work out the different combinations letters can be arranged in and the numbers can be arranged in. and the total possible number plates that can exit with these two items together.
The order of the numbers and letters are important
well no...order isn't that important...since it already stated the order, you can't solve for order anymore
i just said order is somehow important for the second part because for the 3-digit number, you can't start with 0
do you get what i mean?
yes.
wonderful
I'm just sitting at work @ the moment but ill be able to work it out tonight.
Which part did i not get right ? in South - Africa number plates can start with a zero
the part when i said that it is a 3-digit number...true a license plate can start with 0. however, a number cannot start with 0
and since my condition was that it's a 3-digit number, you don't start with 0. make sense?
Ah i see, So the first part of 3 letters will be worked out as a combination and the second part containing the digits will be worked out as a permutation.
I missed the Number... description in word puzzle.
it's still combination...you just consider 9 numbers for the first digit rather than 10 numbers
mmmm. yea also thought of that :(
if i have worked out the combination of the two parts do i sum add these to totals together ?
no. you multiply
Ok, it would be nice if you could provide me with a description why i should multiply ?
So answer will be :(Combination of first Letters 26C3) x ( Combination of 3 Digits 9 C 3)
i see why you're confused...
let's draw some blanks |dw:1351090067789:dw| agree?
then...there are 26 letters of the alphabet yes?
yes
so in each blank, 26 letters can be placed|dw:1351090195950:dw| and you know...you multiply these
|dw:1351090230980:dw| following so far?
yes.
so what do you think do you do for the second part?
The number 9 will be added and multiplied.
added?
Will be added to the empty field in the bubble and be multiplied. The Digits and Letter amounts will then be added together for a total of 18305
yea i have a feeling i am getting this wrong
added together?? i've told you many times you don't add...you multiply...you'll only add if you see the word "or"
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