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OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

State that WORK is DONE or NOT..... A Wind-Mill is lifting water from a well. and also justify your answer..

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

am confusing.....plz help me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for windmill work is not done and for water work is done!

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

no @VV-EFF question is one!!

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

@sirm3d

OpenStudy (anonymous):

work is done then! because windmill is applying force to pull up the water and the water itself displaces! now it depends on the angle between the force applied by the mill and the direction of water!

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

yaa.. i know but my teacher says the work done is zero..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

she would be considering cosQ =0, then she's right

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

can you help me @ganeshie8 and @gerryliyana

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

what is this? i can't understand

OpenStudy (anonymous):

workdone=FxDxcos(Q) where Q is the angle between the force F and displacement D.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the work done is zero., because windmills always return to the original point

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

how can we know that angle is of cosQ

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah thats the point @gerryliyana ! he is considering water anf mill, both as a system!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and in case of water ! water is displaced by force!

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

work is done then! because windmill is applying force to pull up the water and the water itself displaces! now it depends on the angle between the force applied by the mill and the direction of water! @gerryliyana in this case!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nice @VV-EFF

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

so in that case...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nice What! @gerryliyana ! gve him the answer man! lol....

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

so finally whats the conclusion of this answer.

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

@Aperogalics have a look!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the conclusion is that if u are considering the both as a system then the work is done ; iff Q is not equals to 1.5707. and if the system is only the mill then the work is said to be not done!!

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

but the answer is to be written is one

OpenStudy (anonymous):

work is not done! then

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

in my solution book answer is work is done and the reason is that windmill pulls the water against the gravity...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@mayankdevnani there are two thing work done by the system and work done on the system here if the system is windmill then work done by the system is zero as there is no net dispacement while work done by the system is +ve as he make the water to be displaced........:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

obviously !!!!! @mayankdevnani if its against the gravity the according to the equation F=ma , water has mass and the acceleration is .9.8 mLsecsquare! then the force definitely exists ! and so the workdone!

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

so what's the answer??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now dude stop confusing your self! the answer is that the work is certainly done by the system!

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

m really confused @Aperogalics and @VV-EFF what is the concluded answer and answer should be one means both work done or not

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

so i am correct and my teacher is wrong!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

work is done by the system! its certain!

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

sure...are you sure about this!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah!

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

let @Aperogalics be write and then think,. he has creative mind...let @Aperogalics be answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@mayankdevnani @VV-EFF is very clever he is still saying work is done by the system if ur mam is talking about work done on the system then she is correct and if not then you are correct.........:)

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

no my mam says that the work be zero and i say that work is not zero @Aperogalics

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol.. what an answer @Aperogalics

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@mayankdevnani yes ur mam says work is zero but is it by the system or on the system??????????? do you know about which she was talking about??????????????

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

no.. my friend george said that mam says the work done is zero

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

and also 1 thing

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

my senior friend also says that _____ "lifting water" is the work that is done. When anything is lifted - it is moved (displaced) upward against the force of gravity. The force that lifts the object (water) must be greater that that of gravity or the object won't displace upward. The Net force that acts upward to lift (object, water, etc) multiplied by the vertical lift height is defined to be the work done in this process.

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

secondly, there are not more than one work done... right..

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

lastly , what's the concluded answer suppose you are in examination hall and you have a pen and this question ...how would you solve it? @Aperogalics and @VV-EFF

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i would say that u plz read the conversation above! and conclude the answer urslf!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@mayankdevnani answer my question and you will get the answer by yourself:)

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

plz

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a basic question in every book suppose a man lifts a box to his head and walk 40kms . IS THE WORK DONE BY THE PERSON?

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

no work done is zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why????????

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@mayankdevnani

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

because force acts in perpendicular direction\[90^{0}\] and displacement is at right angle

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

right @Aperogalics

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is the work is done against gravity?????

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

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