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OpenStudy (asylum15):

Differentiation Question! :(

OpenStudy (asylum15):

If y = \[5e ^{-4t} - 3e ^{-2t}\] show that \[\frac{ d^2y }{ dt^2 } + 6\frac{ dy }{ dt } +8y = 0\]

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Derive Y?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

use the formula D(e^u)= e^u D(u) lets see what will you get

OpenStudy (asylum15):

So Y' = -4(5e^-4t) + 2 (-3e^-2t) ?

OpenStudy (asylum15):

e^ax = ae^ax

OpenStudy (anonymous):

De^ax = ae^ax yup

OpenStudy (asylum15):

So my first step is correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah +3

OpenStudy (asylum15):

\[= -4(5e ^{-4t}) + 2(-3e ^{-2t})\]

OpenStudy (asylum15):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry about that i dint solved it my self but im just guiding you to the right solution :D

OpenStudy (asylum15):

So am i right so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes correct :D

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Ok, what should I do next? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now do the 2nd derivative

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Y'' yeah?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup but you can still simplify that one by multiplying the constant coefficients

OpenStudy (asylum15):

-4 multipled by 5e ?

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Why is the 5e on the first line a -?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm do it like this 5e^-4t -3e^-2t =5e^-4t D(-4t) -3e^-2tD-2t) =5(-4)e^-4t -3(-2)e^-2t =-20e^-4t +6e^-2t

OpenStudy (asylum15):

If you have -3e^-2t and the -2 comes down, wont you have +2 multiplying by -3 = -6? :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its -3(-2)=+6

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Oh :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but for +3(-2)=-6

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Sorry, so now do the 2nd derivative of this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah try that

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Any ideas how to start it? Aren't we back where we started?

OpenStudy (asylum15):

I need to get an a/b no?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if y'=-20e^-4t +6e^-2t what is y" ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or for example if y=-20e^-4t +6e^-2t what is dy/dx?

OpenStudy (asylum15):

I know i have to derive that. But not sure how to start

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Do you use the same rule again?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do the same thing as you did on the first one

OpenStudy (asylum15):

ah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup the same rule applies to it

OpenStudy (asylum15):

80e^-4t - 12e^-2t

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah correct :D now do some multiplication and addition or subtraction using the formula to prove the one you wrote down above the d^2y/dx^2

OpenStudy (asylum15):

? Don't know what you mean

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just plug in the one you just solve to the formula d^2y/dt^2 +6 dy/dt +8y =0 _________ +6(_______) +8(________) =0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

_________ +6(_______) +8(________) =? solve it and see if you will get zero

OpenStudy (asylum15):

But Don't i have a t?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its like 6 dy/dt 6( -20 e^-4t -3e^-2t ) multiply it

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Sorry this is taking so long, I got A in my last 3 engineering differentiation exams, but just not getting this one

OpenStudy (asylum15):

But how can you say it's equal to zero if you have T and Y still in the equation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

6 dy/dt =6( -20 e^-4t -3e^-2t )= -120 e^-4t -18 e^-2t

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you will add or subtract like terms like 100 e^ 7t + 50 e^ 7t = 150 e^ 7t

OpenStudy (asylum15):

But T has no value, no given value, so I can't say for example 80^-4t = 0!?

OpenStudy (asylum15):

I don't know T! :P

OpenStudy (asylum15):

Using your method I have : -40e^-4t + 24e^-2t + 8y = 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup it has no value its like this 10 e^ 7t - 10 e^ 7t = 0 e^ 7t=0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just plug in the one you just solve to the formula d^2y/dt^2 +6 dy/dt + 8y =? I I I V V V <------- arrow down pointing it solve them (_____________)+ 6(_________) + 8(_______)= __________ 0 ?

OpenStudy (asylum15):

-40e^-4t + 24e^-2t + 8y = 0

OpenStudy (asylum15):

:D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

d^2y/dt^2 +6 dy/dt + 8y =? (80e^-4t - 12e^-2t) +6(-20e^-4t +6e^-2t) + 8( 5e^-4t -3e^-2t)=?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

d^2y/dt^2 + 6 dy/dt + 8y =? (80e^-4t - 12e^-2t) + 6(-20e^-4t +6e^-2t) + 8( 5e^-4t -3e^-2t)=? solve by multiplying first the 6 times the value of dy/dt also 8 times the value of y then add or subtract like terms

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